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Thank you kindly for posting that info, Rich. G
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Your logic in the "non kill-file" usage policy is unassailable Elliott, however so are some brands of arrogant idiocy, and I just can’t (more like "wont") deal w/ it at this point. Since you will never kill the file, I feel safe in doing so – for the sake of the greater good/public info etc… If I could just figure out how to do it ! (technically speaking, I mean) G http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/killfilefaqhtm.htm Rich
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Your logic in the "non kill-file" usage policy is unassailable Elliott, however so are some brands of arrogant idiocy, and I just can’t (more like "wont") deal w/ it at this point. Since you will never kill the file, I feel safe in doing so – for the sake of the greater good/public info etc… If I could just figure out how to do it ! (technically speaking, I mean) G
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/killfilefaqhtm.htm Rich
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Good morning gentlemen, I hope your day is progressing along in a most excellent and satisfying way. Actually, I really didn’t know how to "killfile"; as with most computer issues, unless I am forced to learn how to perform the various functions I generally just don’t. Good, bad or indifferent, that’s just the way I’ve handled the whole computer thing from day one, which was in 1996, when I learned how to turn on a PC, and turn it off. It’s actually quite amazing to me how much of it I am able to do, when I think back at how utterly unable I was at one time. As to some of the issues that have been bantered about, I’ll just list some thoughts, as I’m a little tired; it’s been a fairly rough week, and will culminate on Thursday with dental surgery – isn’t that just ducky…. a) I tend to think that people can make their own discernments as to what is reasonable and what isn’t. Even if they can’t it is certainly no moral or other imperative for me to assist them unless I choose to do so, for reasons that are entirely mine requiring no justification to anyone. b) I find amusement in many things – as well as irony, profundity, joy, sorrow and a host of other potential feeling states. In the case of mcs, I am simply finding irritation, much like a fly in the car while in heavy traffic. To be told that I come here primarily to "play a nurse" far exceeds my capacity for amusement, or even toleration really. I am a real nurse, and I am consummate at it, I give my best effort every day to offer help and support to people who might need some – that is what we do. Nursing isn’t only a job – it’s a profession. There are many things that make me feel good about myself on any given day – failure to be aware of specific and identified annoyances is unnecessary for me to add to the list. No judgment is implied about your list, I’m simply giving you information about mine. 3) The logic in your guess regarding my intent (re. killfile) is unassailable on any number of levels, the most obvious of which is "people do what they WANT to do" so it stands to reason/common-sense that if you do not do something, it’s entirely probable that you did not want to do it. From a past tense perspective that is all perfectly valid in this instance. Things change however, and at this time, killfile is exactly what I precisely DO wish to do, and I assure you that I will accomplish that task, even if I have to enlist the assistance of a professional (not difficult; I have a number of friends in the IT industry). It is simple enough to ignore people – absolutely. It’s even simpler to not have to ignore something you never saw in the first place. Here’s to simplicity, G
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Your logic in the "non kill-file" usage policy is unassailable Elliott, however so are some brands of arrogant idiocy, and I just can’t (more like "wont") deal w/ it at this point. Since you will never kill the file, I feel safe in doing so – for the sake of the greater good/public info etc… If I could just figure out how to do it ! (technically speaking, I mean) G dragged a comb across the head – found the way downstairs and drank a cup, and looking up, noticed it was late – but took the time to write: "Now Gary you got anything better to do….." For once, I think you have a valid point and the answer is a definite and resounding "yes". Take care. I agreed with you then and agree with you now – except for one tiny thing. Statements such as "If people really wanted to know support for anxiety they would get as far away from psychiatrists as humanly possible" need to be challenged, lest it lay there in the open to be seen as a possibly good suggestion. That’s something aside from the ‘folly’ side of such people (amusement factor, if you will 
that I’ve never been able to leave alone. That’s why I’ve never used, nor ever will use, a kill file. E… — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/
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lol the point is , I would never try to harm or criticize someone for no known reason.You were not here when Elliot started it and he keeps replying although he doesn’t care too much so he says. I think the guy is a hypocrite and will say or do anything to come across a certain way. In reality he panics cause he realizes he can’t control everybody or thing. . Having said that anxiety is ultimately lost of control of safety issues and if one is in panic mode they shouldn’t be the ones pointing the fingers at others who do also unless the guy has learned to take no responsibility for his actions". The point is we learn or sometimes we learn thru posting about ourselves or at others, and I react if I think I am right.. Gary you never said most of the time what I said that was right, and you rarely said anything about the other sides responsibilty and you pretend you know the differences.Then you say you have doubts about meds and then give advice about meds. yeah so I think you do get confused too. Most people here don’t come here for support, they come here to play Dr. or nurse in your case. If people really wanted to know support for anxiety they would get as far away from psychiatrists as humanly possible
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – " 24 hours with you wold (sic) be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…" "Why? I think its true with Elliott . so what?" "I don’t want to take out my frrustration (sic) on myself or others" Steve, if you can’t see the contradictions in what you say all the time here, it really is pointless (or ‘mental masturbation’ as E put it) to even continue. My original diagnosis assessment ("I have done all I can here") somehow got ignored by me, and I think I need to re-visit that idea. "Now Gary you got anything better to do….." For once, I think you have a valid point and the answer is a definite and resounding "yes". Take care.
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Your logic in the "non kill-file" usage policy is unassailable Elliott, however so are some brands of arrogant idiocy, and I just can’t (more like "wont") deal w/ it at this point. Since you will never kill the file, I feel safe in doing so – for the sake of the greater good/public info etc… If I could just figure out how to do it ! (technically speaking, I mean) G
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – dragged a comb across the head – found the way downstairs and drank a cup, and looking up, noticed it was late – but took the time to write: "Now Gary you got anything better to do….." For once, I think you have a valid point and the answer is a definite and resounding "yes". Take care. I agreed with you then and agree with you now – except for one tiny thing. Statements such as "If people really wanted to know support for anxiety they would get as far away from psychiatrists as humanly possible" need to be challenged, lest it lay there in the open to be seen as a possibly good suggestion. That’s something aside from the ‘folly’ side of such people (amusement factor, if you will that I’ve never been able to leave alone. That’s why I’ve never used, nor ever will use, a kill file. E… — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/
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" 24 hours with you wold (sic) be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…" "Why? I think its true with Elliott . so what?" "I don’t want to take out my frrustration (sic) on myself or others" Steve, if you can’t see the contradictions in what you say all the time here, it really is pointless (or ‘mental masturbation’ as E put it) to even continue. My original diagnosis assessment ("I have done all I can here") somehow got ignored by me, and I think I need to re-visit that idea. "Now Gary you got anything better to do….." For once, I think you have a valid point and the answer is a definite and resounding "yes". Take care.
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Here is my respons to someone who talked about ocd.please cut and paste post. I think excess energy can contribute to fear. Its where you place that excess energy that sometimes makes all the difference. My own personal experience. Fear of bridges. If I don’t get myself calm like by exercising for at least 2 hours beforehand or a day before. I have extremely hard time. My mind races with thoughts and I am slave to these moments or emotions. My intellect cannot stop them. I have crossed bridges this way still but the fear was more or less uncontainable.So in that realm I can see how excess energy can contribute to fears. Now Gary you never comment about anything I say that suggests changes. You only pinpoint negative things too often and often what I have to say is about policies. Only when Elliott or someone who is very obnoxious comes into play I respond but truthfully its more disconcerting to see you get involved in this . .I also never ever heard you disagree with anything a female had to say.also If you think life is to suggest people taking meds for anxiety again your woefully wrong and missing the point of life. I have seen so much and while amall percent might be helped , a even larger percent would do better by changing lifestyles and condition surrounding themselves then taking meds or reading some new mood therapy book.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A male patient is lying in bed in the hospital, wearing an oxygen mask over his mouth and nose, still heavily sedated from a difficult, four hour, surgical procedure. A young, student nurse appears to give him a partial sponge bath. "Nurse," he mumbles, from behind the mask. "Are my testicles black?" Embarrassed, the young nurse replies, "I don’t know, Sir. I’m only here to wash your upper body and feet." He struggles to ask again, "Nurse, are my testicles black?" Concerned that he may elevate his vitals from worry about his testicles, she overcomes her embarrassment and sheepishly pulls back the covers. She raises his gown, holds his penis in one hand and his testicles in the other. Then, she takes a close look and says, "There’s nothing wrong with them, Sir!" The man pulls off his oxygen mask, smiles at her and says very slowly, "Thank you very much. That was wonderful, but, listen very, very closely…… A r e – m y – t e s t – r e s u l t s – b a c k?
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Since your soo fast in making assumptions. Lets examine the same critique to my assumptions about Bush or air pollution or why I am anxious. Also consider this is just kind of funny to me. When my mom goes crazy when she herself is nuts or when Elliott goes crazy when he is nuts, shows a strong lack of observation of oneself. Its always they….. to these people I admit I have some drawbacks and do have some anxieties. Lets say if it shows I am mean here its best to suggest better here then out there. . Also I will throw out this. in the case of fortitude and understanding that some people who feel about some of the issues sit on their ass which is exactly why Bush wins two times. Its time people stand up and take a stand. With Elliott, there is absolutely no meaness intended. its just the truth as I see it. I didn’t say I hope anything happens to him, I just know what kind of freak he is. period.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "The bottom line is try not to take too much what anyone says here seriously." OK… "I think there are emotions and then there is intellect. I come here to see if I can unify them more." a) If we are "not to take too much what anyone says here seriously" then why would you ever be successful in unifying anything, or creating this "change" you so strongly claim to support? b) Not content with the first stab, you (not so subtlely) stabbed again, this time giving the dog the cancer. This is disconcerting and sad, reflective of an angry and disenfranchised product of a way-too-big and mean town, and probably precious little else. but don’t worry about it, because I’m not "real life", and we certainly don’t live with each other. People who post here ARE real people – whether you have the insight to see that or not is immaterial; they are real and so are their concerns. Your narcissism is frightening at times. People who try to "out mean" others do not impress me, and actually just show how devolved our society is on a number of levels. "I have always tried to show broader correlation and how things are connected in all areas of life." If that was really the case, you would realize that being unkind to anyone, regardless of whether you "like" them or not – is a negative and unproductive use of your time, and can only harm. Your grandiosity coupled with a less than optimal "intellect" and semi-loose associations again forces me to (in the spirit of a committment to honesty) suggest that you may have a thinking disorder – probably of the schizophreniform sort. "The best thing we can do is try to do is try to move the emotion part a little bit more to the intelligent part whereas we live in unison with our lives." That could almost (maybe) be construed as a defensible statement, except that… well, it just wouldn’t be polite to say much else here……. G Gary you and others here get into he said she said too much, because in reality there are way more important issues going on and I usually outline them on other groups and sometimes here. . I think I have said this many times. I think there are emotions and then there is intellect. I come here to see if I can unify them more. . Anxiety is often nothing less then fears of not knowing what the future will bring . People say whatever they want to try to mitigate those fears. some of it appears real and some of it doesnt, some of it is funny and some of it is to take up time. The bottom line is try not to take too much what anyone says here seriously. This is not real life lol It might well be reflective of real situations going on in our brain, and a place to release tension and frustration etc. But in fact don’t live with each other do we? True I don’t like Elliott but so what? I know many people don’t like me, but when you try to make progress on issues or in life people hate sometimes the scent of reality or change.. Change is extremely threatnings and so the status quo is often much more reliable and friendly. Because more people like the status quo don’t mean its right . Because a clik of people accept certain people and things here, don’t mean I can’t still go over the mix also. a group of ten people out of a group of millions can be indicative of a good click or it can be just one variation of a dysfunctional group.. This is like a fire drill to go over how I might react in real life to same situations. If I knew someone like Elliot in real life I would avoid him thats all. . . Everything we do we have decisions, yes no , opinion about him or her. The best thing we can do is try to do is try to move the emotion part a little bit more to the intelligent part whereas we live in unison with our lives. I have always tried to show broader correlation and how things are connected in all areas of life.I have tried to take my anxiety and utilize it where it become useable instead of a drain. I am not one who can block things out so I learn to put them into different places in my brain. Sort of like filtering out the information. . Hopefully we all have our own real lives outside this group. In fact I think this is good therapy
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Gary anxiously waiting how what I said could be arrested for. .
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here." Steve, that is called a ‘veiled threat’, and could land you in prison, I’d be really careful about that kind of stuff. Dont’ believe me? I can show you examples if you like. " 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…" Yesterday you were talking about "separating emotion from intellect, moving further away from emotion, etc.." however it doesn’t look like you’re doing a very good job at that. " because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others." You may have bought into that statement, but I don’t believe it at all. Too much evidence suggests otherwise. "People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy" The world is filled with (and always has been) hypocrisy. Get used to it, become comfortable with it and then you can simply smile when you see it. At THAT point you will have "changed yourself" and maybe have a shot at a better life, at least from a mental standpoint. Nothing like good, clean, old-fashionned hate. Free entertainment. Gary Ratched There are excellent reasons to worry about those things and sometimes I think its a problem because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others. I have a history of buying into mental health profession that actually made me believe it was something inherently wrong with me instead of society. I learned you have to change yourself first and then try to change outside influences because they have a certain quantative effect on keeping people in down time… You can learn to be in denial , or you can learn you have responsibilities to make changes and id those things or you could be like you Elliott. Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here. .I try to seperate the anxiety from personal issues and things and ideas. . People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy when the guy doing the criticizing has panic, control and anger issues tooo. and with you Elliott we very rarely heard why you panicked but thats not surprising with a control geek. . Like I said I am sure you have a history of control problem but so what, glad your flipping your wife out amongst others/ Elliott when you talk about Tom Thumb too is it any wonder? Did you see yourself in that dog video. Maybe this is why you panic? . I guess this is what happens when mental illness takes its toll , You’re a Scrotaljestersizer by definition. I know that’s just what you want to hear. Thank me another time lol thankyou, na, let your wife and family thank you honey, me just glad you don’t panic around here. 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here." Steve, that is called a ‘veiled threat’, and could land you in prison, I’d be really careful about that kind of stuff. Dont’ believe me? I can show you examples if you like. yeah Gary knock yourself out. I studied prelaw long time ago. I will bet you this. If I can land in prison for what I just said, you know law better then me? There is absolutely no threat there! . One I think you took it the wrong way. I wouldnt want to risk going near this Elliott . I do love life too much and this guy is a nut case if I saw one but not sure psychotic.. When I said I am glad he is there and I am here I meant it. Now Gary you got anything better to do then make up crazy things ? " 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…" Yesterday you were talking about "separating emotion from intellect, moving further away from emotion, etc.." however it doesn’t look like you’re doing a very good job at that.
Why? I think its true with Elliott . so what? " because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others." You may have bought into that statement, but I don’t believe it at all. Too much evidence suggests otherwise.
Gary, you are also without any doubt one to say things because you think it makes good type. I can’t believe how you try to get involved in every post. then you say you don’t want to appear like you come off whatever. Perhaps you would feel better in trying to get in touch with your emotion. Everyone has fears , disliked etc.I do try to rationalize mine. You say things to people and you miss the point so much. We have a strong disagreement with perceptions. I think Gary you would respond to trolls and you wouldn’t know the difference. "People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy" The world is filled with (and always has been) hypocrisy. Get used to it, become comfortable with it and then you can simply smile when you see it. At THAT point you will have "changed yourself" and maybe have a shot at a better life, at least from a mental standpoint.
Of course, thats my hope one day but Elliott keeps responding to my posts lol or you lost that connection Gar. Nothing like good, clean, old-fashionned hate. Free entertainment.
Sometimes you need to react to get it off your chest. Gary Ratched
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are excellent reasons to worry about those things and sometimes I think its a problem because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others. I have a history of buying into mental health profession that actually made me believe it was something inherently wrong with me instead of society. I learned you have to change yourself first and then try to change outside influences because they have a certain quantative effect on keeping people in down time… You can learn to be in denial , or you can learn you have responsibilities to make changes and id those things or you could be like you Elliott. Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here. .I try to seperate the anxiety from personal issues and things and ideas. . People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy when the guy doing the criticizing has panic, control and anger issues tooo. and with you Elliott we very rarely heard why you panicked but thats not surprising with a control geek. . Like I said I am sure you have a history of control problem but so what, glad your flipping your wife out amongst others/ Elliott when you talk about Tom Thumb too is it any wonder? Did you see yourself in that dog video. Maybe this is why you panic? . I guess this is what happens when mental illness takes its toll , You’re a Scrotaljestersizer by definition. I know that’s just what you want to hear. Thank me another time lol thankyou, na, let your wife and family thank you honey, me just glad you don’t panic around here. 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…
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"Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here." Steve, that is called a ‘veiled threat’, and could land you in prison, I’d be really careful about that kind of stuff. Dont’ believe me? I can show you examples if you like.
yeah Gary knock yourself out. I studied prelaw long time ago. I will bet you this. If I can land in prison for what I just said, you know law better then me? There is absolutely no threat there! . One I think you took it the wrong way. I wouldnt want to risk going near this Elliott . I do love life too much and this guy is a nut case if I saw one but not sure psychotic.. When I said I am glad he is there and I am here I meant it. Now Gary you got anything better to do then make up crazy things ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – " 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…" Yesterday you were talking about "separating emotion from intellect, moving further away from emotion, etc.." however it doesn’t look like you’re doing a very good job at that. " because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others." You may have bought into that statement, but I don’t believe it at all. Too much evidence suggests otherwise. "People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy" The world is filled with (and always has been) hypocrisy. Get used to it, become comfortable with it and then you can simply smile when you see it. At THAT point you will have "changed yourself" and maybe have a shot at a better life, at least from a mental standpoint. Nothing like good, clean, old-fashionned hate. Free entertainment. Gary Ratched There are excellent reasons to worry about those things and sometimes I think its a problem because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others. I have a history of buying into mental health profession that actually made me believe it was something inherently wrong with me instead of society. I learned you have to change yourself first and then try to change outside influences because they have a certain quantative effect on keeping people in down time… You can learn to be in denial , or you can learn you have responsibilities to make changes and id those things or you could be like you Elliott. Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here. .I try to seperate the anxiety from personal issues and things and ideas. . People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy when the guy doing the criticizing has panic, control and anger issues tooo. and with you Elliott we very rarely heard why you panicked but thats not surprising with a control geek. . Like I said I am sure you have a history of control problem but so what, glad your flipping your wife out amongst others/ Elliott when you talk about Tom Thumb too is it any wonder? Did you see yourself in that dog video. Maybe this is why you panic? . I guess this is what happens when mental illness takes its toll , You’re a Scrotaljestersizer by definition. I know that’s just what you want to hear. Thank me another time lol thankyou, na, let your wife and family thank you honey, me just glad you don’t panic around here. 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…
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"Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here." Steve, that is called a ‘veiled threat’, and could land you in prison, I’d be really careful about that kind of stuff. Dont’ believe me? I can show you examples if you like. " 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…" Yesterday you were talking about "separating emotion from intellect, moving further away from emotion, etc.." however it doesn’t look like you’re doing a very good job at that. " because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others." You may have bought into that statement, but I don’t believe it at all. Too much evidence suggests otherwise. "People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy" The world is filled with (and always has been) hypocrisy. Get used to it, become comfortable with it and then you can simply smile when you see it. At THAT point you will have "changed yourself" and maybe have a shot at a better life, at least from a mental standpoint. Nothing like good, clean, old-fashionned hate. Free entertainment. Gary Ratched – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are excellent reasons to worry about those things and sometimes I think its a problem because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others. I have a history of buying into mental health profession that actually made me believe it was something inherently wrong with me instead of society. I learned you have to change yourself first and then try to change outside influences because they have a certain quantative effect on keeping people in down time… You can learn to be in denial , or you can learn you have responsibilities to make changes and id those things or you could be like you Elliott. Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here. .I try to seperate the anxiety from personal issues and things and ideas. . People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy when the guy doing the criticizing has panic, control and anger issues tooo. and with you Elliott we very rarely heard why you panicked but thats not surprising with a control geek. . Like I said I am sure you have a history of control problem but so what, glad your flipping your wife out amongst others/ Elliott when you talk about Tom Thumb too is it any wonder? Did you see yourself in that dog video. Maybe this is why you panic? . I guess this is what happens when mental illness takes its toll , You’re a Scrotaljestersizer by definition. I know that’s just what you want to hear. Thank me another time lol thankyou, na, let your wife and family thank you honey, me just glad you don’t panic around here. 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised…
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There are excellent reasons to worry about those things and sometimes I think its a problem because I don’t want to take out my frrustration on myself or others. I have a history of buying into mental health profession that actually made me believe it was something inherently wrong with me instead of society. I learned you have to change yourself first and then try to change outside influences because they have a certain quantative effect on keeping people in down time… You can learn to be in denial , or you can learn you have responsibilities to make changes and id those things or you could be like you Elliott. Certainly one has to be thankful you are there and I am here. .I try to seperate the anxiety from personal issues and things and ideas. . People who come to an anxiety group for get this anxiety, and who are criticized just reeks with hypocrisy when the guy doing the criticizing has panic, control and anger issues tooo. and with you Elliott we very rarely heard why you panicked but thats not surprising with a control geek. . Like I said I am sure you have a history of control problem but so what, glad your flipping your wife out amongst others/ Elliott when you talk about Tom Thumb too is it any wonder? Did you see yourself in that dog video. Maybe this is why you panic? . I guess this is what happens when mental illness takes its toll , You’re a Scrotaljestersizer by definition. I know that’s just what you want to hear. Thank me another time lol thankyou, na, let your wife and family
thank you honey, me just glad you don’t panic around here. 24 hours with you wold be enough for anyone to selfdestruct.Oh wait some have already, me sooo surprised… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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"The bottom line is try not to take too much what anyone says here seriously." OK… "I think there are emotions and then there is intellect. I come here to see if I can unify them more." a) If we are "not to take too much what anyone says here seriously" then why would you ever be successful in unifying anything, or creating this "change" you so strongly claim to support? b) Not content with the first stab, you (not so subtlely) stabbed again, this time giving the dog the cancer. This is disconcerting and sad, reflective of an angry and disenfranchised product of a way-too-big and mean town, and probably precious little else. but don’t worry about it, because I’m not "real life", and we certainly don’t live with each other. People who post here ARE real people – whether you have the insight to see that or not is immaterial; they are real and so are their concerns. Your narcissism is frightening at times. People who try to "out mean" others do not impress me, and actually just show how devolved our society is on a number of levels. "I have always tried to show broader correlation and how things are connected in all areas of life." If that was really the case, you would realize that being unkind to anyone, regardless of whether you "like" them or not – is a negative and unproductive use of your time, and can only harm. Your grandiosity coupled with a less than optimal "intellect" and semi-loose associations again forces me to (in the spirit of a committment to honesty) suggest that you may have a thinking disorder – probably of the schizophreniform sort. "The best thing we can do is try to do is try to move the emotion part a little bit more to the intelligent part whereas we live in unison with our lives." That could almost (maybe) be construed as a defensible statement, except that… well, it just wouldn’t be polite to say much else here……. G – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gary you and others here get into he said she said too much, because in reality there are way more important issues going on and I usually outline them on other groups and sometimes here. . I think I have said this many times. I think there are emotions and then there is intellect. I come here to see if I can unify them more. . Anxiety is often nothing less then fears of not knowing what the future will bring . People say whatever they want to try to mitigate those fears. some of it appears real and some of it doesnt, some of it is funny and some of it is to take up time. The bottom line is try not to take too much what anyone says here seriously. This is not real life lol It might well be reflective of real situations going on in our brain, and a place to release tension and frustration etc. But in fact don’t live with each other do we? True I don’t like Elliott but so what? I know many people don’t like me, but when you try to make progress on issues or in life people hate sometimes the scent of reality or change.. Change is extremely threatnings and so the status quo is often much more reliable and friendly. Because more people like the status quo don’t mean its right . Because a clik of people accept certain people and things here, don’t mean I can’t still go over the mix also. a group of ten people out of a group of millions can be indicative of a good click or it can be just one variation of a dysfunctional group.. This is like a fire drill to go over how I might react in real life to same situations. If I knew someone like Elliot in real life I would avoid him thats all. . . Everything we do we have decisions, yes no , opinion about him or her. The best thing we can do is try to do is try to move the emotion part a little bit more to the intelligent part whereas we live in unison with our lives. I have always tried to show broader correlation and how things are connected in all areas of life.I have tried to take my anxiety and utilize it where it become useable instead of a drain. I am not one who can block things out so I learn to put them into different places in my brain. Sort of like filtering out the information. . Hopefully we all have our own real lives outside this group. In fact I think this is good therapy
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two people on here who criticized when I posted initially and I had not said anything negative or mean till then to anyone here, one I won’t name and the other is you. It takes a special shumuck with problems and panic to not recognize the same things in others as in yourself but I said that before and I think Elliott says what people want to hear not whats really on his mind and thus maybe this is why he Panics. but dont worry about me k?
they tell you violent crime Msg: 943 of 943 is down. They don’t tell you the true numbers about anything else unless they want to make you think everything is wonderful. Lets see violent crime is down for two states on Saturday afternoon bed, dragged a comb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – across the head – found the way downstairs and drank a cup, and looking up, noticed it was late – but took the time to write: Steve is being mean, to someone who doesn’t really care (not that much anyway). I don’t care about him and me at all – really. I’ve been around far too long and dealt far greater idiots than him As I’d posted previously, people need to be careful about posting personal information because a jerk such as Steve, or others, might decide to toss it back as a way to hurt (and only because he has no other way to respond – as any real thoughts and/or ideas don’t exist . That can hurt (if not destroy, to an extent) certain other people. Internet or not, it’s a part of real life. There are many people who use Usenet as a lifeline because they either have nothing else, or they think it ‘is’ their world. A personal jab to certain people can (and has) deepened depression & turned people away from the forum they depended on to vent – as they had given out very personal details in the process. Usenet is an anarchy, and always has been. It can be a great way to get information of all sorts. It can be a great way to be involved in all sorts of debates, as well as find moral support and…. even find friends. It can also help those with afflictions find out that they’re not alone, and find help and support via the many many support groups. It’s those that seem the most vulnerable (support group members) as if a woman reports on a rape group some details about herself, and some moron decides to say some jerk off thing such as "get it right, girlie – you were asking for it" – I’d say that the original poster needed to be aware that such an event could take place. Steve is such a person who has proven (proven) that he would do something quite as similar. I only feel it fair that others be careful. My guess is that he’d never use any information unless one where tell him shut the fuck up – and that’s where he runs out of gas and HAS to resort to ’some way’ to counter. Intellectually, he has no way, so he has to use data that has been supplied. I won’t bring up what he said about me again, as it isn’t a concern of mine, nor does it bother me. It was so that others could know that he’s capable of such things, that could hurt them. As I said, it could hurt some to an extent that he has no idea, since he doesn’t think this is ‘real.’ How wrong. It (the internet) is part of the real world. Any form of communication is part of ones’ real world/universe – and a part of their personal environment and total life experience. Steve (or Tom Thumb) will just have to suck himself some more and get used to the idea that he’s not even 1/2 — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/
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Gary you and others here get into he said she said too much, because in reality there are way more important issues going on and I usually outline them on other groups and sometimes here. . I think I have said this many times. I think there are emotions and then there is intellect. I come here to see if I can unify them more. . Anxiety is often nothing less then fears of not knowing what the future will bring . People say whatever they want to try to mitigate those fears. some of it appears real and some of it doesnt, some of it is funny and some of it is to take up time. The bottom line is try not to take too much what anyone says here seriously. This is not real life lol It might well be reflective of real situations going on in our brain, and a place to release tension and frustration etc. But in fact don’t live with each other do we? True I don’t like Elliott but so what? I know many people don’t like me, but when you try to make progress on issues or in life people hate sometimes the scent of reality or change.. Change is extremely threatnings and so the status quo is often much more reliable and friendly. Because more people like the status quo don’t mean its right . Because a clik of people accept certain people and things here, don’t mean I can’t still go over the mix also. a group of ten people out of a group of millions can be indicative of a good click or it can be just one variation of a dysfunctional group.. This is like a fire drill to go over how I might react in real life to same situations. If I knew someone like Elliot in real life I would avoid him thats all. . . Everything we do we have decisions, yes no , opinion about him or her. The best thing we can do is try to do is try to move the emotion part a little bit more to the intelligent part whereas we live in unison with our lives. I have always tried to show broader correlation and how things are connected in all areas of life.I have tried to take my anxiety and utilize it where it become useable instead of a drain. I am not one who can block things out so I learn to put them into different places in my brain. Sort of like filtering out the information. . Hopefully we all have our own real lives outside this group. In fact I think this is good therapy
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you missed another special contribution from Elliott. Me going to get David Burns feel good cut out bookthough, because . If I can only be 1/2 well as Elliott
1/2 well as Elliott? (so you’ll phone halfway home?) ELLL-EEEE-OTTTTT!!!! I am thinking I can take a video of me and the neighborhood dog before the poor dog gets doggy cancer.
HUH? they ain’t found’ah cure fer cancer, but yer predictin’ it? now that’s what i call …. REPROGRESSION! (new word… now THAT’s progress) STEVE ! WTF ARE YOU TALKIN’ ABOUT ?????? ~tanya <
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Steve is being mean, to someone who doesn’t really care (not that much anyway). Steve hates Elliott, and it appears that Elliott has little use for Steve as well. This started with some "debate" (steve-esque debate style is my guess) which annoyed Elliott, about CBT (not the one ur thinkin’ of baby)- – and then Steve told Elliott, in so many words, that he was probably responsible for his own wife’s illness (breast cancer – which she survived). Everyone chewed Steve out, he decided the only sensible thing (?) to do was dig his heels in and say he doesn’t care about "popularity" (which appears to be amply true, at least here anyway). Elliott asked for apology – which is the one thing I don’t completely understand, if he truly finds Steve insignificant – why ask him for anything? But I digress, and will probably be called worse than Ratched now…. Point is, Steve would not, so there is now permanent bad blood between these two cats – and now Steve is attacking Elliott’s dogs with allusions to cancer, etc.. (Very poor form, Steve – if you truly wanna fuck with someone, at least get a little better at it…) I hope that has brought you up to speed Tanya. Were you in jail all this time or something? G
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you missed another special contribution from Elliott. Me going to get David Burns feel good cut out bookthough, because . If I can only be 1/2 well as Elliott 1/2 well as Elliott? (so you’ll phone halfway home?) ELLL-EEEE-OTTTTT!!!! I am thinking I can take a video of me and the neighborhood dog before the poor dog gets doggy cancer. HUH? they ain’t found’ah cure fer cancer, but yer predictin’ it? now that’s what i call …. REPROGRESSION! (new word… now THAT’s progress) STEVE ! WTF ARE YOU TALKIN’ ABOUT ?????? ~tanya <
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ok.. what’d i miss? ~tanya you missed another special contribution from Elliott. Me going to get
David Burns feel good cut out bookthough, because . If I can only be 1/2 well as Elliott I am thinking I can take a video of me and the neighborhood dog before the poor dog gets doggy cancer.
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Why do fish swim? Because they’re afraid of land sharks, ya putz.
and why do dogs lick their pee pee? because they can’t make a fist, whaddah shame. ~tanya
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Elliott I was just kidding. Had I known you would get so hyper on a joke, I would never have joked about The new mood therapy book and your old dog videos. I gots a complimentary gift for you just to show you don’t have to panic because of all this. Just calm down and relax, I will send a blind transexual to come and give you a sponge bath. (whats your address?) I shouldn’t have to tell you this, but dont assume free sex either.I only paid for necessary parts of your care.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – dragged a comb across the head – found the way downstairs and drank a cup, and looking up, noticed it was late – but took the time to write: Why do fish swim? Because they’re afraid of land sharks, ya putz. — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/
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ok.. what’d i miss? ~tanya
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A male patient is lying in bed in the hospital, wearing an oxygen mask over his mouth and nose, still heavily sedated from a difficult, four hour, surgical procedure. A young, student nurse appears to give him a partial sponge bath. "Nurse," he mumbles, from behind the mask. "Are my testicles black?" Embarrassed, the young nurse replies, "I don’t know, Sir. I’m only here to wash your upper body and feet." He struggles to ask again, "Nurse, are my testicles black?" Concerned that he may elevate his vitals from worry about his testicles, she overcomes her embarrassment and sheepishly pulls back the covers. She raises his gown, holds his penis in one hand and his testicles in the other. Then, she takes a close look and says, "There’s nothing wrong with them, Sir!" why is this an issue? i dated many a man with black testicles. it goes with tha territory when ya date black men… don’t it? DID I MISS SUMTHIN? The man pulls off his oxygen mask, smiles at her and says very slowly, "Thank you very much. That was wonderful, but, listen very, very closely…… A r e – m y – t e s t – r e s u l t s – b a c k? Ma? i’m gonna hit you in yer head you make me laff so bad ! (why do i fall fer this stuff?) Why do fish swim? ~tanya <jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A male patient is lying in bed in the hospital, wearing an oxygen mask over his mouth and nose, still heavily sedated from a difficult, four hour, surgical procedure. A young, student nurse appears to give him a partial sponge bath. "Nurse," he mumbles, from behind the mask. "Are my testicles black?" Embarrassed, the young nurse replies, "I don’t know, Sir. I’m only here to wash your upper body and feet." He struggles to ask again, "Nurse, are my testicles black?" Concerned that he may elevate his vitals from worry about his testicles, she overcomes her embarrassment and sheepishly pulls back the covers. She raises his gown, holds his penis in one hand and his testicles in the other. Then, she takes a close look and says, "There’s nothing wrong with them, Sir!"
why is this an issue? i dated many a man with black testicles. it goes with tha territory when ya date black men… don’t it? DID I MISS SUMTHIN? The man pulls off his oxygen mask, smiles at her and says very slowly, "Thank you very much. That was wonderful, but, listen very, very closely…… A r e – m y – t e s t – r e s u l t s – b a c k?
Ma? i’m gonna hit you in yer head you make me laff so bad ! (why do i fall fer this stuff?) ~tanya <jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
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A male patient is lying in bed in the hospital, wearing an oxygen mask over his mouth and nose, still heavily sedated from a difficult, four hour, surgical procedure. A young, student nurse appears to give him a partial sponge bath. "Nurse," he mumbles, from behind the mask. "Are my testicles black?" Embarrassed, the young nurse replies, "I don’t know, Sir. I’m only here to wash your upper body and feet." He struggles to ask again, "Nurse, are my testicles black?" Concerned that he may elevate his vitals from worry about his testicles, she overcomes her embarrassment and sheepishly pulls back the covers. She raises his gown, holds his penis in one hand and his testicles in the other. Then, she takes a close look and says, "There’s nothing wrong with them, Sir!" The man pulls off his oxygen mask, smiles at her and says very slowly, "Thank you very much. That was wonderful, but, listen very, very closely…… A r e – m y – t e s t – r e s u l t s – b a c k?
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My daughter, SIL, and three granddaughters have not even started on their way here yet – they’re leaving in a few hours – so they’ll probably be on the road trying to get here for the next 30+ hours (stuck in a car with three children and two d*gs, bless their hearts!!!). 
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