No More Hope [OT]

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Kili, Purrs and prayers that your cousin is found safe as well. Kate. Owned by Fudge, Caramel & Meg http://www.geocities.com/kate_dunn/miaow.html

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Kili, Purrs and prayers that your cousin is found safe as well. Kate. Owned by Fudge, Caramel & Meg http://www.geocities.com/kate_dunn/miaow.html

Thanks, Kate.  My Aunt and Uncle have their fingers crossed.  She’s a mother of two teenagers. kili

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kili, Purrs and prayers that your cousin is found safe as well. Kate. Owned by Fudge, Caramel & Meg http://www.geocities.com/kate_dunn/miaow.html Thanks, Kate.  My Aunt and Uncle have their fingers crossed.  She’s a mother of two teenagers. kili

Kili, I am hitting myself over the head for allowing myself to get drawn into a political rant when your family is suffering, too.  I am so sorry– the whole situation makes many of us just crazy.  Big purrs and prayers for your family. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)! Oh, I am in full agreement with you!  Jesse Jackson has the effrontery to say that to call the refugees, "refugees" implies bigotry.  WHAT IN THE HELL?  Refugee implies a person seeking refuge.  This means white people, black people, Asian, Mexican – all from that area.

And they are American.  Refugee implies a person seeking refuse from another country. There are many different races still stuck in their homes with no food or water.  Why are they making this a BLACK issue?  I don’t get it.  I just don’t get it. My WHITE cousin is still missing.  She was just diagnosed with breast cancer and was supposed to undergo chemo this week.  She lives in Metairie just outside of New Orleans.  Where are the crews to help her, if supposedly the crews are only helping WHITE people? I hate that people are insinuating help didn’t arrive sooner because the ones most afflicted were poor and black.  Let’s not put race on this, please.  Jeesh.

You are so ignorant, it’s appalling.  Why do you think the government was so slow to help in the first place?  What do you think the response would be if this was Kennebunkport, The Hamptons, or even Long Island? These people are seen as expendable by our government.  They have been for a long, long time. The Rupublican party better bend over and kiss their rich lily white asses bye-bye.  They’re dead, and they can than Katrina for making it happen. -L.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)! I just got off the phone with the Red Cross and the names of my missing family and friends are still not listed in any of the evacuation centers scattered across the country. I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster. Hugs, CatNipped

I’m so sorry, Lori. This was a horrible, horrible disaster. God watch over every poor soul in New Orleans who could not get out in time before the storm. (((CatNipped))) Melissa

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SNIP Thanks, Kate.  My Aunt and Uncle have their fingers crossed.  She’s a mother of two teenagers. kili

Kili,  I hope your cousin will be found safe and well and SOON. My three are on extra heavy purr patrol. Melissa

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kili, Purrs and prayers that your cousin is found safe as well. Kate. Owned by Fudge, Caramel & Meg http://www.geocities.com/kate_dunn/miaow.html Thanks, Kate.  My Aunt and Uncle have their fingers crossed.  She’s a mother of two teenagers. kili Kili, I am hitting myself over the head for allowing myself to get drawn into a political rant when your family is suffering, too.  I am so sorry– the whole situation makes many of us just crazy.  Big purrs and prayers for your family.

Don’t hit yourself over the head!  We don’t need any more injured people in this country.  <g  Just trying to make light of a terrible situation. Thanks for your well-wishes.  I just can’t believe it’s been over a week and we haven’t heard anything. kili

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)! Oh, I am in full agreement with you!  Jesse Jackson has the effrontery to say that to call the refugees, "refugees" implies bigotry.  WHAT IN THE HELL?  Refugee implies a person seeking refuge.  This means white people, black people, Asian, Mexican – all from that area. And they are American.  Refugee implies a person seeking refuse from another country.

Seeking refuse?  Interesting. kili

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans Oh, I am in full agreement with you!  Jesse Jackson has the effrontery to say that to call the refugees, "refugees" implies bigotry.  WHAT IN THE HELL?  Refugee implies a person seeking refuge. And they are American.  Refugee implies a person seeking refuse from another country. Seeking refuse?  Interesting. kili

There is plenty of refuse, that’s for sure. Jill

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I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans

I don’t think he singled out NO.  I am sure he has said poor black people in the South. are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)!

Yet your white family – WHO ALREADY WERE SAFE AND WERE WITH THEIR OWN FAMILY – received aid, food, and god-knows what else while thousands of black people (and others in New Orleans) sat in their own shit and filth in the Superdome waiting for anyone to even bring them water. Not to mention others whop were still floating by. Be glad your family had a car to leave in.  Be glad they had family with a big fancy home and high-paying job (according to you – apparently now your story has changed) to go to.  Black people in NO – and the South in general – didn’t and don’t have that luxury.  It is institutionalized racism which has kept the situation that way for decades.  When the body count is done, you can bet the vast majority of the dead will be poor and black.  These are preventable deaths  the government knew about – but Bush and his cronies favored fighting their religious war over funding the infrastructure of the levees for years. They simply don’t give a shit because the area is poor and black.  And that’s a fact. "I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." – President Bush, September 1, 2005 "It was a broiling August afternoon in New Orleans, Louisiana, the Big Easy, the City That Care Forgot. Those who ventured outside moved as if they were swimming in tupelo honey. Those inside paid silent homage to the man who invented air-conditioning as they watched TV "storm teams" warn of a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. Nothing surprising there: Hurricanes in August are as much a part of life in this town as hangovers on Ash Wednesday. But the next day the storm gathered steam and drew a bead on the city. As the whirling maelstrom approached the coast, more than a million people evacuated to higher ground. Some 200,000 remained, however–the car-less, the homeless, the aged and infirm, and those die-hard New Orleanians who look for any excuse to throw a party. The storm hit Breton Sound with the fury of a nuclear warhead, pushing a deadly storm surge into Lake Pontchartrain. The water crept to the top of the massive berm that holds back the lake and then spilled over. Nearly 80 percent of New Orleans lies below sea level–more than eight feet below in places–so the water poured in. A liquid brown wall washed over the brick ranch homes of Gentilly, over the clapboard houses of the Ninth Ward, over the white-columned porches of the Garden District, until it raced through the bars and strip joints on Bourbon Street like the pale rider of the Apocalypse. As it reached 25 feet (eight meters) over parts of the city, people climbed onto roofs to escape it. Thousands drowned in the murky brew that was soon contaminated by sewage and industrial waste. Thousands more who survived the flood later perished from dehydration and disease as they waited to be rescued. It took two months to pump the city dry, and by then the Big Easy was buried under a blanket of putrid sediment, a million people were homeless, and 50,000 were dead. It was the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States. When did this calamity happen? It hasn’t–yet. But the doomsday scenario is not far-fetched. The Federal Emergency Management Agency lists a hurricane strike on New Orleans as one of the most dire threats to the nation, up there with a large earthquake in California or a terrorist attack on New York City." – National Geographic, October, 2004 If you want to point the finger of blame at anyone, blame the idiots who put these eletist, racist assholes in office (some for a second time!).  You get what *you* vote for. -L.

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Seeking refuse?  Interesting. kili

Typo and you know it.   -L.

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SNIP Thanks, Kate.  My Aunt and Uncle have their fingers crossed.  She’s a mother of two teenagers. kili Kili,  I hope your cousin will be found safe and well and SOON. My three are on extra heavy purr patrol. Melissa

Thank you, Melissa and kiss your furry friends for me.  Better yet, give them a huge hug for me. kili

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<snip I just got off the phone with the Red Cross and the names of my missing family and friends are still not listed in any of the evacuation centers scattered across the country. I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster.

Still purring that by some miracle, your brother and his family survived. — Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

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From a Vancouver BC team working in Chalmette http://tinyurl.com/8ll53 Not very encouraging I’m afraid, Jo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)! http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/national/nationalspecial/04relief.html "Mark Melancon, a firefighter who has been living with colleagues in the BellSouth building, said they had begun shaving their heads at night, in an act of mourning, despair and distraction. "The number of bodies we’re finding is unbelievable," he said. Even some people who were able to get to the parish’s evacuation centers did not survive. Representative Charlie Melancon, a Democrat who represents the area, said in an interview in Baton Rouge that 100 people in St. Bernard Parish had died while trying to leave, which he attributed to a lack of water and food. Deputies had returned heartbroken after their search missions, pulling naked infants from the water and stacking bodies in the parish jail and courthouse, said Lt. Jeff Lee, of the sheriff’s department. "When we start hitting down the doors, there’s no telling what the body count will be," he said." AND http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-chalmette4sep04,… "Maj. Pete Tufaro of the Sheriff’s Department said 43 people were found dead in the first day of door-to-door checks." "Firefighter Melancon – ‘The number of bodies we’re finding is unbelievable!’" 6:00 P.M. – Baltimore Sun – "According to Bayham, much of the parish of 72,000 people is covered by water, and entire towns – Delacroix, Shell Beach, Hopedale and Yscloski – are gone. "They’ve ceased to exist," he said." –Mike Bayham Article http://www.st-bernard.la.us/emprep/katrina/eventlog.htm I just got off the phone with the Red Cross and the names of my missing family and friends are still not listed in any of the evacuation centers scattered across the country. I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster. Hugs, CatNipped

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Because the evacuation plans, at least from NO, *were*  carried out– but they just didn’t seem to consider people who didn’t have cars, or couldn’t afford to fill up their tanks.  Or who had no flood insurance, and would be terrified to leave their only property behind. The ultimate sin in this country is to be poor– or more and more, as the middle class, disappears, simply not to be rich. I believe what I see on my TV when I know there are almost 40 million people without any health coverage at all in this country. And this administration has always pretended that there are no poor people here, or that people choose to be poor, or choose not to have a car or choose to be without health coverage– or that you can support a family on a Walmart job.

I hear ya there.  I have no health insurance and no car.  I haven’t had health coverage in, gosh, what, 20 years?  Thank God I’m relatively healthy. The United States definitely seems to favor the upper class and what makes me infuriated is the way that our country gives to other countries – ignoring the people here who need help.  I’m lucky my husband has a job. When you get down and out without a home it’s futile to try to find a job because you need a phone and an address to acquire a job. kili <——-stepping off her soapbox, now.  Sorry.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)! Oh, I am in full agreement with you!  Jesse Jackson has the effrontery to say that to call the refugees, "refugees" implies bigotry.  WHAT IN THE HELL?  Refugee implies a person seeking refuge.  This means white people, black people, Asian, Mexican – all from that area.  There are many different races still stuck in their homes with no food or water.  Why are they making this a BLACK issue?  I don’t get it.  I just don’t get it. My WHITE cousin is still missing.  She was just diagnosed with breast cancer and was supposed to undergo chemo this week.  She lives in Metairie just outside of New Orleans.  Where are the crews to help her, if supposedly the

I don’t think people — even Jesse Jackson– is suggesting that the rescue crews are discriminating.  My God, the rescue crews down there are mostly black.  But I think a conclusion *can* be drawn that the poor were disproportionately affected by the hurricane– as they always are– and that there is a mindset of apathy/denial/benign neglect of the poor in this country– and *that* is what is shocking the world.   Because the evacuation plans, at least from NO, *were*  carried out– but they just didn’t seem to consider people who didn’t have cars, or couldn’t afford to fill up their tanks.  Or who had no flood insurance, and would be terrified to leave their only property behind. The ultimate sin in this country is to be poor– or more and more, as the middle class, disappears, simply not to be rich. I believe what I see on my TV when I know there are almost 40 million people without any health coverage at all in this country. And this administration has always pretended that there are no poor people here, or that people choose to be poor, or choose not to have a car or choose to be without health coverage– or that you can support a family on a Walmart job. <end of rant Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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oh god. Lori, we are constantly saying the rosary every night for all the poor souls who were lost in this tragedy. We still hope your brother and his family are not among them, and your best friend’s too. Hang in there. Lily & her mama Lydia — Irulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)! http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/national/nationalspecial/04relief.html "Mark Melancon, a firefighter who has been living with colleagues in the BellSouth building, said they had begun shaving their heads at night, in an act of mourning, despair and distraction. "The number of bodies we’re finding is unbelievable," he said. Even some people who were able to get to the parish’s evacuation centers did not survive. Representative Charlie Melancon, a Democrat who represents the area, said in an interview in Baton Rouge that 100 people in St. Bernard Parish had died while trying to leave, which he attributed to a lack of water and food. Deputies had returned heartbroken after their search missions, pulling naked infants from the water and stacking bodies in the parish jail and courthouse, said Lt. Jeff Lee, of the sheriff’s department. "When we start hitting down the doors, there’s no telling what the body count will be," he said." AND http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-chalmette4sep04,… "Maj. Pete Tufaro of the Sheriff’s Department said 43 people were found dead in the first day of door-to-door checks." "Firefighter Melancon – ‘The number of bodies we’re finding is unbelievable!’" 6:00 P.M. – Baltimore Sun – "According to Bayham, much of the parish of 72,000 people is covered by water, and entire towns – Delacroix, Shell Beach, Hopedale and Yscloski – are gone. "They’ve ceased to exist," he said." –Mike Bayham Article http://www.st-bernard.la.us/emprep/katrina/eventlog.htm I just got off the phone with the Red Cross and the names of my missing family and friends are still not listed in any of the evacuation centers scattered across the country. I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster. Hugs, CatNipped

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I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)!

Oh, I am in full agreement with you!  Jesse Jackson has the effrontery to say that to call the refugees, "refugees" implies bigotry.  WHAT IN THE HELL?  Refugee implies a person seeking refuge.  This means white people, black people, Asian, Mexican – all from that area.  There are many different races still stuck in their homes with no food or water.  Why are they making this a BLACK issue?  I don’t get it.  I just don’t get it. My WHITE cousin is still missing.  She was just diagnosed with breast cancer and was supposed to undergo chemo this week.  She lives in Metairie just outside of New Orleans.  Where are the crews to help her, if supposedly the crews are only helping WHITE people? I hate that people are insinuating help didn’t arrive sooner because the ones most afflicted were poor and black.  Let’s not put race on this, please.  Jeesh. Sorry for the rant, but it makes me angry.  I have family missing too, for gosh sakes. kili

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Lori, I can’t even imagine what you’re feeling at this point. Your emotions must be on a rollercoaster. Prayers from my family (and Rexie) to you that you have the strength to get through this, whatever the outcome.    – ShirleyB, Rexie’s Mom To Reply by email: remove ‘nick’ Pictures of His Majesty, Rex are at: http://community.webshots.com/album/255873683SwWQZJ AND OUR HOMEPAGE:  http://jumi-shirley-butler.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)! I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster. Hugs, CatNipped

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Many purrs and prayers for you and your family.  I and my family send our prayers and good wishes to you all. I wish I was closer, so that I could help more – if there is anything I can do from this side of the Atlantic do let me know, even if it is just to send a parcel of goodies for your grand-daughters. Take care of yourself.  We’re all thinking of you. Kate.

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I just got off the phone with the Red Cross and the names of my missing family and friends are still not listed in any of the evacuation centers scattered across the country. I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster. Hugs, CatNipped

Of course. Wish there was more to offer. I don’t know what else to say.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got off the phone with the Red Cross and the names of my missing family and friends are still not listed in any of the evacuation centers scattered across the country. I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster. Hugs, CatNipped

Purrs and prayers headed your way, CN.  Don’t give up yet.  Things are still so disorganized down there. I do agree with the whole New Orleans thing.  Obviously it’s a recognizable city which people around the world recognize by name but it is by far the only area affected. Jill

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yodeled: I just got off the phone with the Red Cross and the names of my missing family and friends are still not listed in any of the evacuation centers scattered across the country. I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster. Hugs, CatNipped

Oh my God.  Oh, Lori, my poor girl.  There are no words.   (((((((((((((((Lori and family))))))))))))))))) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster.

Don’t lose hope just yet, some of the shelters are so overwhelmed, I’m sure have no idea of all the people who are there. We’ll keep purring for a miracle. — Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)

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I just can’t hold on to hope any longer.  It seems my home town, Chalmette (in St. Bernard Parish) has been totally neglected in favor of New Orleans (and the minimal help *they* have been given).  It makes me want to put my fist through the television when Jesse Jackson and other black activists say that the poor black people of New Orleans are being discriminated against when St. Bernard Parish has been written off as just gone (never mind that there are still people trapped on roofs and in attics that are still (barely) alive)! http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/national/nationalspecial/04relief.html "Mark Melancon, a firefighter who has been living with colleagues in the BellSouth building, said they had begun shaving their heads at night, in an act of mourning, despair and distraction. "The number of bodies we’re finding is unbelievable," he said. Even some people who were able to get to the parish’s evacuation centers did not survive. Representative Charlie Melancon, a Democrat who represents the area, said in an interview in Baton Rouge that 100 people in St. Bernard Parish had died while trying to leave, which he attributed to a lack of water and food. Deputies had returned heartbroken after their search missions, pulling naked infants from the water and stacking bodies in the parish jail and courthouse, said Lt. Jeff Lee, of the sheriff’s department. "When we start hitting down the doors, there’s no telling what the body count will be," he said." AND http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-chalmette4sep04,… "Maj. Pete Tufaro of the Sheriff’s Department said 43 people were found dead in the first day of door-to-door checks." "Firefighter Melancon – ‘The number of bodies we’re finding is unbelievable!’" 6:00 P.M. – Baltimore Sun – "According to Bayham, much of the parish of 72,000 people is covered by water, and entire towns – Delacroix, Shell Beach, Hopedale and Yscloski – are gone. "They’ve ceased to exist," he said." –Mike Bayham Article http://www.st-bernard.la.us/emprep/katrina/eventlog.htm I just got off the phone with the Red Cross and the names of my missing family and friends are still not listed in any of the evacuation centers scattered across the country. I would appreciate purrs and prayers for the souls of my bother and his family, my best friend of 45 years and her family, and everyone else who lost their lives in this disaster. Hugs, CatNipped

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Mango (odd title but read it anyway)

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BBC Radio 4’s Afternoon Play today "Mango" was about the dancer Anne Kilcoyne who produced a performance based on her breast cancer.  The performance was based on a one-breast striptease, at the age of 62. Anne, who died last week, reads the central narrative herself. I found it quite moving.

It had very good responses from subscribers to Feedback. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BBC Radio 4’s Afternoon Play today "Mango" was about the dancer Anne Kilcoyne who produced a performance based on her breast cancer.  The performance was based on a one-breast striptease, at the age of 62. Anne, who died last week, reads the central narrative herself. I found it quite moving. I wondered if anyone here heard it. I found it irritatingly slow, contrived and pretentious and not at all moving, I was very disappointed because it seemed to have no relevance to me or anyone here after the first few minutes. But I’m pleased that it served someone else differently Fair enough, I was driving, so the slowness didn’t bother me, I wasn’t paying a lot of attention at first.  It might have more relevance to males, as what it mainly seemed to address (IMHO) was the male reaction to mastectomy. I think you have a point there – the male reaction comment. But you know my opinion of mastectomy anyway, perhaps I was being too harsh, I know that many women are very upset about it. When it began I was interested because of the description of the woman with the joyful picture of her new image. Then, when the narrator was so presumptuous about the other photograph (of a woman’s torso showing her mastectomy scar) I was cross – I felt that she shouldn’t have made such an assessment of how that woman felt when she couldn’t see her face. Or even if she had been able to … I thought about those lovely (to me) pictures we’ve talked about recently on this group and my asking if we could do our own gallery. Just because a woman isn’t smiling or laughing doesn’t mean that she’s miserable about her condition. She could be calm, she could be more accepting than the subject of the play, come to think of it … Value judgements can do a disservice to others.

That’s the way with art I suppose: the way the picture makes the viewer feel may have nothing to do with how the model felt.  Else all the guys who buy Playboy would feel bored, cold and irritable.  I think that is particularly true when you can’t see the face.  Medical photos do seem rather depressing to me. I think she was more criticising the picture as art than the woman herself – and essentially saying "I can do better than that", which prompted to produce a work in her own artform. Tim

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BBC Radio 4’s Afternoon Play today "Mango" was about the dancer Anne Kilcoyne who produced a performance based on her breast cancer. The performance was based on a one-breast striptease, at the age of 62. Anne, who died last week, reads the central narrative herself. I found it quite moving. I wondered if anyone here heard it. I found it irritatingly slow, contrived and pretentious and not at all moving, I was very disappointed because it seemed to have no relevance to me or anyone here after the first few minutes. But I’m pleased that it served someone else differently Fair enough, I was driving, so the slowness didn’t bother me, I wasn’t paying a lot of attention at first.  It might have more relevance to males, as what it mainly seemed to address (IMHO) was the male reaction to mastectomy. I think you have a point there – the male reaction comment. But you know my opinion of mastectomy anyway, perhaps I was being too harsh, I know that many women are very upset about it. When it began I was interested because of the description of the woman with the joyful picture of her new image. Then, when the narrator was so presumptuous about the other photograph (of a woman’s torso showing her mastectomy scar) I was cross – I felt that she shouldn’t have made such an assessment of how that woman felt when she couldn’t see her face. Or even if she had been able to … I thought about those lovely (to me) pictures we’ve talked about recently on this group and my asking if we could do our own gallery. Just because a woman isn’t smiling or laughing doesn’t mean that she’s miserable about her condition. She could be calm, she could be more accepting than the subject of the play, come to think of it … Value judgements can do a disservice to others. That’s the way with art I suppose: the way the picture makes the viewer feel may have nothing to do with how the model felt.

But in that case the way the model felt was irrelevant to the image … Else all the guys who buy Playboy would feel bored, cold and irritable.

I bow to your greater experience I think that is particularly true when you can’t see the face.  Medical photos do seem rather depressing to me.

They’re objective, emotions have no place in them. I think she was more criticising the picture as art than the woman herself – and essentially saying "I can do better than that", which prompted to produce a work in her own artform.

That’s one interpretation which didn’t come across to me – perhaps I was distracted. But it wasn’t supposed to be art … and I suspect that the pictures on that website we saw recently have a bigger audience than her play … which wasn’t 100% real, more an interpretation of her experience. Which is what all art is And what medical pictures aren’t. I’m not being rude but I’m off to bed, so tired … still not back to Real Life after two weeks in Wales. Hugs, Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tim

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BBC Radio 4’s Afternoon Play today "Mango" was about the dancer Anne Kilcoyne who produced a performance based on her breast cancer.  The performance was based on a one-breast striptease, at the age of 62. Anne, who died last week, reads the central narrative herself. I found it quite moving. If you have RealPlayer (e.g. the free download) and a broadband connection you can listen to it anytime in the next seven days at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/ram/afternoonplay_fri.ram (ignore the first few seconds trailing another program, these things are recorded automatically.) Tim Jackson

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BBC Radio 4’s Afternoon Play today "Mango" was about the dancer Anne Kilcoyne who produced a performance based on her breast cancer.  The performance was based on a one-breast striptease, at the age of 62. Anne, who died last week, reads the central narrative herself. I found it quite moving.

I wondered if anyone here heard it. I found it irritatingly slow, contrived and pretentious and not at all moving, I was very disappointed because it seemed to have no relevance to me or anyone here after the first few minutes. But I’m pleased that it served someone else differently Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tim Jackson

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BBC Radio 4’s Afternoon Play today "Mango" was about the dancer Anne Kilcoyne who produced a performance based on her breast cancer.  The performance was based on a one-breast striptease, at the age of 62. Anne, who died last week, reads the central narrative herself. I found it quite moving. I wondered if anyone here heard it. I found it irritatingly slow, contrived and pretentious and not at all moving, I was very disappointed because it seemed to have no relevance to me or anyone here after the first few minutes. But I’m pleased that it served someone else differently

Fair enough, I was driving, so the slowness didn’t bother me, I wasn’t paying a lot of attention at first.  It might have more relevance to males, as what it mainly seemed to address (IMHO) was the male reaction to mastectomy. Tim

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BBC Radio 4’s Afternoon Play today "Mango" was about the dancer Anne Kilcoyne who produced a performance based on her breast cancer.  The performance was based on a one-breast striptease, at the age of 62. Anne, who died last week, reads the central narrative herself. I found it quite moving. I wondered if anyone here heard it. I found it irritatingly slow, contrived and pretentious and not at all moving, I was very disappointed because it seemed to have no relevance to me or anyone here after the first few minutes. But I’m pleased that it served someone else differently Fair enough, I was driving, so the slowness didn’t bother me, I wasn’t paying a lot of attention at first.  It might have more relevance to males, as what it mainly seemed to address (IMHO) was the male reaction to mastectomy.

I think you have a point there – the male reaction comment. But you know my opinion of mastectomy anyway, perhaps I was being too harsh, I know that many women are very upset about it. When it began I was interested because of the description of the woman with the joyful picture of her new image. Then, when the narrator was so presumptuous about the other photograph (of a woman’s torso showing her mastectomy scar) I was cross – I felt that she shouldn’t have made such an assessment of how that woman felt when she couldn’t see her face. Or even if she had been able to … I thought about those lovely (to me) pictures we’ve talked about recently on this group and my asking if we could do our own gallery. Just because a woman isn’t smiling or laughing doesn’t mean that she’s miserable about her condition. She could be calm, she could be more accepting than the subject of the play, come to think of it … Value judgements can do a disservice to others. I’m really sorry that I couldn’t enjoy the play, I wanted to … Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tim

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hOW TO rECOGNIZE A MELANOMA

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I can’t find the thread where everyone was discussing moles, but today I came across a site which has a presentation with pictures which is intended for second year medical students at UC Davis.  Click on the "next" in the left hand column for the next page of the tutorial. http://www.mpip.org/guide/suspindex.html — Merry

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Merry wrote: > I can’t find the thread where everyone was discussing moles, but today I > came across a site which has a presentation with pictures which is intended > for second year medical students at UC Davis.  Click on the "next" in the > left hand column for the next page of the tutorial. > http://www.mpip.org/guide/suspindex.html

Thanks – very informative! FurPaw

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x-no-archive: yes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Merry wrote: >> I can’t find the thread where everyone was discussing moles, but today I >> came across a site which has a presentation with pictures which is intended >> for second year medical students at UC Davis.  Click on the "next" in the >> left hand column for the next page of the tutorial. >> http://www.mpip.org/guide/suspindex.html >Thanks – very informative! >FurPaw

I don’t think I see the spots here that my derm recognized as early cell changes.  My biopsies confirmed that two tiny spots she found were of the type that eventually beome melanoma.  I sure want all of them diagnosed at that stage. Susan

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Susan wrote: > x-no-archive: yes >>Merry wrote: >>>I can’t find the thread where everyone was discussing moles, but today I >>>came across a site which has a presentation with pictures which is intended >>>for second year medical students at UC Davis.  Click on the "next" in the >>>left hand column for the next page of the tutorial. >>>http://www.mpip.org/guide/suspindex.html >>Thanks – very informative! >>FurPaw > I don’t think I see the spots here that my derm recognized as early cell > changes.  My biopsies confirmed that two tiny spots she found were of the type > that eventually beome melanoma.

Oh bullshit. There’s no such thing as an early  cell change that *inevitably* becomes a melanoma, just as DCIS won’t inevitably become breast cancer and cervical dysplasia won’t inevitably become cervical cancer.    I sure want all of them diagnosed at that – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> stage. > Susan

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Merry <3chinac…@comcast.net> wrote: > I can’t find the thread where everyone was discussing moles, but today I > came across a site which has a presentation with pictures which is intended > for second year medical students at UC Davis.  Click on the "next" in the > left hand column for the next page of the tutorial. > http://www.mpip.org/guide/suspindex.html

_Very_ educational and also put my mind at ease. I thought a mole on one breast may not be so innocent after all, but it’s fine. I now know what to look for. — ****** Keera in Norway ****** * Think big. Shrink to fit. * http://home.online.no/~kafox/

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"Keera Ann Fox" <ka….@online.no> wrote in message news:1gdbo38.l0uiq2xheikgN%ka.fox@online.no… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Merry <3chinac…@comcast.net> wrote: > > I can’t find the thread where everyone was discussing moles, but today I > > came across a site which has a presentation with pictures which is intended > > for second year medical students at UC Davis.  Click on the "next" in the > > left hand column for the next page of the tutorial. > > http://www.mpip.org/guide/suspindex.html > _Very_ educational and also put my mind at ease. I thought a mole on one > breast may not be so innocent after all, but it’s fine. I now know what > to look for. > — > ****** Keera in Norway ****** > * Think big. Shrink to fit. * > http://home.online.no/~kafox/

…but, just in case this site didn’t cover everything, it might be wise to check with your doctor anyway. Merry

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Merry <3chinac…@comcast.net> wrote: > "Keera Ann Fox" <ka….@online.no> wrote in message > news:1gdbo38.l0uiq2xheikgN%ka.fox@online.no… > > Merry <3chinac…@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I can’t find the thread where everyone was discussing moles, but today > I > > > came across a site which has a presentation with pictures which is > intended > > > for second year medical students at UC Davis.  Click on the "next" in > the > > > left hand column for the next page of the tutorial. > > > http://www.mpip.org/guide/suspindex.html > > _Very_ educational and also put my mind at ease. I thought a mole on one > > breast may not be so innocent after all, but it’s fine. I now know what > > to look for. > …but, just in case this site didn’t cover everything, it might be wise to > check with your doctor anyway.

It covered my needs. The mole on my breast has been there for years. In slanted lighting, I thought it had changed, but the website and closer examination shows it was truly just the lighting. — ****** Keera in Norway ****** * Think big. Shrink to fit. * http://home.online.no/~kafox/

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Regarding Surgery

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Hi. I go in tomorrow morning for a mastectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I’m scared, and I really don’t want to go. Any words of advice?

Don’t be scared. Thousand of us have it done every day (if you know what I mean!) and come through it smiling – more or less. Remember that it’s not mutilation, it’s healing surgery. As soon as you’re back with your pc let us know how it went, we’ll be thinking of you. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nancy

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Hi. I go in tomorrow morning for a mastectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I’m scared, and I really don’t want to go. Any words of advice?

Hi, Nancy, I can understand your being worried . . . this is a very big deal, isn’t it?   But, difficult as it is, it’s a vital step on the road to wellness.  Maybe it could be somewhat reassuring if I share my story? I had bilateral mastectomies with axillary disection (i.e., 9 nodes, not just the sentinel node(s)) in late 2000, at age 45.  The surgery itself wasn’t as bad as I had feared.  I was lucky, didn’t have a lot of pain, and bounced back quite quickly from it.  I took prescription pain meds for a few days, then those only at night with regular over-the-counter meds during the day, and probably really didn’t even need all that. I live alone, so I was concerned about getting along.  I needed help from friends with heavy lifting for a short time, but that was manageable. I now have full strength and 99.995% range of motion.  (It’s very important to do post-mastectomy exercises, which are just gentle stretching — nothing difficult or straining.  If your doctor doesn’t give you any exercises soon after surgery, ask him/her, ask your local American Cancer Society chapter, or post here for suggestions.) Since then, I’m doing great — have taken up rowing (crew — I’m on a breast cancer survivors’ rowing team), weight training, and swimming, so you can see my activities aren’t much restricted by the surgery! I also had extensive (5-field) radiation on one side (side where nodes were removed).  Possibly/probably you won’t need the radiation — most with mastectomies don’t — so you should do even better. I elected not to have reconstruction, and that’s working out great (it may be easier for bilateral — I wear prostheses for work & dressy occasions, but often go around just flat, and no one seems to stare). There are many choices in prostheses, and they’re easy to wear. If you have any questions, please post or email.  Hang in there, you’ll do better than you fear!  Just take it one day at a time — it’s manageable. Sending positive vibes your way, Ann T.

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By the way, my surgeon injected the blue dye just below my nipple because it is as effective in going to the lymph nodes as putting into the tumor.

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Hi Shaz, I had a Sentinel node biopsy at the same time as a total mastectomy. The reason is that there were no signs of lymph node involvement by touch or by MRI. In the hopes of preventing an axillary dissection, I opted for this procedure. I suppose I was a fairly good candidate for this. And I refused the alternative. It should be another week before the results are in. If the sentinel node is affected (and the other couple of lymph nodes my surgeon probably got), then, unfortunately, I need to go back for yet another surgery. In the long run, it will cost me a lot more time and discomfort. Since I definately am recommended for radiation, I chose to do it this way. My surgeon has a lot of experience with sentinel node biopsy, having now done about 150. This is an important necessity when getting it done. He is working on getting the equipment using radioactive dye, and only used the blue dye. He was successful in finding it which is great news. Only eight days since surgery, and I’m feeling pretty good. I’ve been exercising, and the pain was not that intense, probably because I didn’t have the axillary dissection. Of course, there may be an issue of only one node being involved. If so, I really should decide to get the axillary dissection. I’ll deal with that when the time comes. And, I also assume the 33% margin of error risk as the theory behind Sentinel node biopsy is not always true. Nancy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Just a quick question to anyone who knows anything regarding the procedure of sentinel node biopsy.   I had a Mastectomy in April 2003 and had nodes removed (9, of which 1 was positive). As far as I am aware I don’t think I had this sentinel node biopsy, where dye is injected. Could I have had this done while I was under general for my mast and not known that I had it done? Would my surgeon have told me that he did this procedure?   What is the reason for doing this procedure? What is the difference, if any, to sentinel node biopsy and removal of nodes during mast?   If I didn’t have this done, then why?   All this talk about this, has got me wondering and worrying about this.   I would be very grateful if anyone here can enlighten me on any of my queries.   Thanks in advance,   Shaz x   Hi. I go in tomorrow morning for a mastectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I’m   scared, and I really don’t want to go.   Any words of advice?   Nancy

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kill pain and let me sleep. Any ideas? First, I am glad that the surgery went well and hoping that when the results come in they are the ‘best’ of all possible outcomes. As far as taking anything, I was told to use Ativan.  It really knocked me out, helped me sleep without making me feel any nausea, and it took the edge off any discomfort I was feeling.  Take care and hope all continues to go well. {{{Hugs}}}

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‘Throat is sore/glands feel swollen’ could be because of the breathing tube they put down your throat after you are asleep. I’ve had more problems with that than I think there should be, nothing terrible, just irritation, a feeling of ‘fullness’. Glad all went well for you. Ann in PA

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‘Throat is sore/glands feel swollen’ could be because of the breathing tube they put down your throat after you are asleep.

Oh yes, of course. I always have a sore throat after a general, it’s the worst part but you know it’s going to go. Mary

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  Just a quick question to anyone who knows anything regarding the procedure of sentinel node biopsy.   I had a Mastectomy in April 2003 and had nodes removed (9, of which 1 was positive). As far as I am aware I don’t think I had this sentinel node biopsy, where dye is injected. Could I have had this done while I was under general for my mast and not known that I had it done? Would my surgeon have told me that he did this procedure?   What is the reason for doing this procedure? What is the difference, if any, to sentinel node biopsy and removal of nodes during mast?   If I didn’t have this done, then why?   All this talk about this, has got me wondering and worrying about this.   I would be very grateful if anyone here can enlighten me on any of my queries.   Thanks in advance,   Shaz x   Hi. I go in tomorrow morning for a mastectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I’m   scared, and I really don’t want to go.     Any words of advice?     Nancy    

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Just a quick question to anyone who knows anything regarding the procedure of sentinel node biopsy.   I had a Mastectomy in April 2003 and had nodes removed (9, of which 1 was positive). As far as I am aware I don’t think I had this sentinel node biopsy, where dye is injected. Could I have had this done while I was under general for my mast and not known that I had it done? Would my surgeon have told me that he did this procedure?   What is the reason for doing this procedure? What is the difference, if any, to sentinel node biopsy and removal of nodes during mast?   If I didn’t have this done, then why?   All this talk about this, has got me wondering and worrying about this.   I would be very grateful if anyone here can enlighten me on any of my queries.   Thanks in advance,   Shaz x

No, you probably didn’t have it done.  As far as I know it is not (yet) standard treatment in the UK. The point of the procedure is that it is less damaging than a full axillary clearance if the sentinel node(s) proves negative, as the other nodes are then not removed, and so the risk of lymphoedema should be reduced.  As you had a positive node this would, as it turns out, have been of no benefit to you anyway. The procedure does carry some risk of false negatives, it does occasionally happen that the identified sentinel node is negative, but there are other positive nodes, so the risk of recurrent cancer may be increased very slightly. As far as I know it is still not really clear what the balance of benefits is. Tim Jackson

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 I even take my own pillow!

I take my own linen covered down pillow, my cotton undersheet, my vacuum flask for tea, my personal radio and tape player and if I had one I’d take a pc. Back in 1993 when I was in for brain surgery my publisher brought in a laptop so that I could finish editing an Australian ms … When I was in for the lumpectomy I made six yards of tablet weaving. By focusing on providing for my own comfort, it helps distract me from the surgery.

Yes, something to do (other than books and mags) is an excellent tip. But not just one thing, it can pall. We need several distractions. I know you’ll do great!

We all do ) M – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sassy

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Hi Sassy, All I know about the biopsy is they use a blue dye, not the radioactive dye. Is this what you mean? Is the blue dye radioactive? Nancy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Nancy Take along some fuzzy socks and a book or magazine to help pass the time while you’re in nuclear medicine. Once they inject the dye for the sentinel node biopsy, they have to wait a while for the dye to migrate to the nodes.  Having something to do to take your mind off things helps. Fuzzy sock keep your feet warm.  I’ve also learned to ask for a pair of scrub pants to wear while I’m waiting for surgery.  They’re usually nice and crisp since they’re from the laundry.  (I hate having my butt hanging out of those gowns.) Then, I look forward to having my post operative narcotics.  With the morphine pump, it’s especially nice since you can administer the drug every 7-8 minutes. I’m the patient with the bunny slippers, princess crown, cozy bathrobe and etc.  I even take my own pillow! By focusing on providing for my own comfort, it helps distract me from the surgery. I know you’ll do great! Sassy

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Nancy, all I can say is don’t be scared, I listened to my favorite CD’s…as a matter of fact..I didn’t need any pain medications after my modified radical mastectomy…everything will go well. Good luck with your surgery. My prayers and hopes are with you for a speedy recovery. Sunny – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. I go in tomorrow morning for a mastectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I’m scared, and I really don’t want to go. Any words of advice? Nancy

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Nancy, my best thoughts and prayers are with you.  I do have some advice to help with the surgery.  The worst part for me was that horrific feeling of nausea as i was coming to after the surgery.  18 mos. later I had a complete abdominal hysterectomy and oopherectomy and did not have that problem.  I learned from someone on-line to ask the anesthesiologist to add Zofran to the anesthesia.  Zofran is one of the newer anti-nausea drugs used for chemotherapy.  They used it, and it worked.  Nobody could believe how easy it was for me after I awoke in surgery and did not have any of those yucky, uncomfortable feelings.  In fact I did so well they said I could go home a day early–after the hysterectomy. I am not sure THAT was the advice you were looking for but wanted to share what helped me most with the experiences of surgery.   As for the other–would like to recommend a phenomenal book–KITCHEN TABLE WISDOM by Rachel Reiman (Rieman?) M.D.  It is a compendium of inspirational short stories, including many success stories of cancer patients, written by a an m.d., who, herself, has medical challenges. After the surgery, it is important to do the exercises recommended–even if they hurt.  That will prevent future discomfort. My best thoughts and prayers are with you.  {{{Hugs}}

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Hi. I go in tomorrow morning for a mastectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I’m scared, and I really don’t want to go. Any words of advice?

Nancy, my wife listened to her favorite teacher chanting a meditation.  They let her wear headphones and take her cassette recorder into the OR.  I assume they’ll put you under — you can go to sleep listening to whatever relaxes you. I advise against Metallica <g.  My very best wishes on your speedy recovery. – Tony Love & Light Tony

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Well, I guess the surgery went pretty well! I was scared, and cried when I came too, but all in all it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I’m somewhat embarrassed because when I came too, I kept asking the nurse if I was still pretty. lol I’m feeling fairly comfortable with my new figure. Mind you, I haven’t got the bandages off yet. I even went to an exercise class at a breast cancer center the following morning. I did half the class at a lower pace, just legs and light aerobics basically. I had a lot of loving support when I got home. And my room looks like a garden. My surgeon was pleased he did get the sentinel node. He thinks he may have picked up one or two more with it. I’m hoping that they are clear so I don’t have to go back for an auxillary dissection. If they are clear, I will be quite pleased and think I may prevent lymphodema. I’ve been doing the exercises the hospital gave me for my arm. I think my range of motion is okay. I don’t push it because of the incision. It’s almost definite that I will need radiation. And probably more chemo. I will find out in about 2 weeks time. It’s too bad the wait is so long for the results. Thank you all for your words of encouragement and advice. It wasn’t nearly as traumatic as I thought it would be. I’m out of demerol. I don’t react well to codeine as it seems to stimulate me and keep me awake at night. I’m going to request something else that will kill pain and let me sleep. Any ideas? Next week I’m doing a walkathon (3 km or so) to help raise money for bc research. As well, I’ll be seeing my boyfriend shaving his hair off for fundraising. Should be fun. Hugs Nancy

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Well, I guess the surgery went pretty well! I was scared, and cried when I came too, but all in all it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be.

I’m very pleased for you and everyone else will be too! It rarely is as bad as you think I’m somewhat embarrassed because when I came too, I kept asking the nurse if I was still pretty.

Er – they didn’t touch your face did they??? lol I’m feeling fairly comfortable with my new figure. Mind you, I haven’t got the bandages off yet.

Slim and boyish is still good. You’ll look wonderful! Just remember that you’ll be looking down and seeing any – er – extra weight round your middle which was previously partially hidden. No-one else will notice that, they don’t look down in the same way. They probably won’t even notice! I even went to an exercise class at a breast cancer center the following morning. I did half the class at a lower pace, just legs and light aerobics basically.

Good. Don’t give up. I had a lot of loving support when I got home. And my room looks like a garden.

I know, it’s lovely isn’t it! Do reply to your cards and letters though, people really do care and want to know how you got on. My surgeon was pleased he did get the sentinel node. He thinks he may have picked up one or two more with it. I’m hoping that they are clear so I don’t have to go back for an auxillary dissection. If they are clear, I will be quite pleased and think I may prevent lymphodema.

ALL my nodes were removed and lymphoedema isn’t a problem for me. It doesn’t follow that node removal results in lympho, we just have to be more careful. I’ve been doing the exercises the hospital gave me for my arm. I think my range of motion is okay. I don’t push it because of the incision.

You won’t burst the stitches! Do the exercises. You’ll be glad later on when you have a full range of movement and others don’t’. It’s almost definite that I will need radiation. And probably more chemo. I will find out in about 2 weeks time. It’s too bad the wait is so long for the results.

It will pass quickly. Thank you all for your words of encouragement and advice. It wasn’t nearly as traumatic as I thought it would be. I’m out of demerol. I don’t react well to codeine as it seems to stimulate me and keep me awake at night. I’m going to request something else that will kill pain and let me sleep. Any ideas?

I found that paracetamol and diclofenac were very useful. I didn’t sleep much at first anyway, I used the extra time to do things I don’t normally have time for! Next week I’m doing a walkathon (3 km or so) to help raise money for bc research. As well, I’ll be seeing my boyfriend shaving his hair off for fundraising. Should be fun.

Wonderful! How about sending some pictures for Tim to put on the website? Thanks for telling us this positive news, it’s come at a good time. Hugs, Mary

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Funny. I was looking down today, and noticed a bit of a gut. I thought it was just distention from the stuff they put down my throat. On second thought, I think I’ll have to do more situps than in the past. My throat is sore and the glands in my neck are swollen. Is this typical? I nurse said it was nothing, but it hurts quite a bit. I’d be glad to send pictures of the walkathon! Nancy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I guess the surgery went pretty well! I was scared, and cried when I came too, but all in all it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I’m very pleased for you and everyone else will be too! It rarely is as bad as you think I’m somewhat embarrassed because when I came too, I kept asking the nurse if I was still pretty. Er – they didn’t touch your face did they??? lol I’m feeling fairly comfortable with my new figure. Mind you, I haven’t got the bandages off yet. Slim and boyish is still good. You’ll look wonderful! Just remember that you’ll be looking down and seeing any – er – extra weight round your middle which was previously partially hidden. No-one else will notice that, they don’t look down in the same way. They probably won’t even notice! I even went to an exercise class at a breast cancer center the following morning. I did half the class at a lower pace, just legs and light aerobics basically. Good. Don’t give up. I had a lot of loving support when I got home. And my room looks like a garden. I know, it’s lovely isn’t it! Do reply to your cards and letters though, people really do care and want to know how you got on. My surgeon was pleased he did get the sentinel node. He thinks he may have picked up one or two more with it. I’m hoping that they are clear so I don’t have to go back for an auxillary dissection. If they are clear, I will be quite pleased and think I may prevent lymphodema. ALL my nodes were removed and lymphoedema isn’t a problem for me. It doesn’t follow that node removal results in lympho, we just have to be more careful. I’ve been doing the exercises the hospital gave me for my arm. I think my range of motion is okay. I don’t push it because of the incision. You won’t burst the stitches! Do the exercises. You’ll be glad later on when you have a full range of movement and others don’t’. It’s almost definite that I will need radiation. And probably more chemo. I will find out in about 2 weeks time. It’s too bad the wait is so long for the results. It will pass quickly. Thank you all for your words of encouragement and advice. It wasn’t nearly as traumatic as I thought it would be. I’m out of demerol. I don’t react well to codeine as it seems to stimulate me and keep me awake at night. I’m going to request something else that will kill pain and let me sleep. Any ideas? I found that paracetamol and diclofenac were very useful. I didn’t sleep much at first anyway, I used the extra time to do things I don’t normally have time for! Next week I’m doing a walkathon (3 km or so) to help raise money for bc research. As well, I’ll be seeing my boyfriend shaving his hair off for fundraising. Should be fun. Wonderful! How about sending some pictures for Tim to put on the website? Thanks for telling us this positive news, it’s come at a good time. Hugs, Mary

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Hi Nancy: Take along some fuzzy socks and a book or magazine to help pass the time while you’re in nuclear medicine.   Once they inject the dye for the sentinel node biopsy, they have to wait a while for the dye to migrate to the nodes.  Having something to do to take your mind off things helps. Fuzzy sock keep your feet warm.  I’ve also learned to ask for a pair of scrub pants to wear while I’m waiting for surgery.  They’re usually nice and crisp since they’re from the laundry.  (I hate having my butt hanging out of those gowns.) Then, I look forward to having my post operative narcotics.  With the morphine pump, it’s especially nice since you can administer the drug every 7-8 minutes. I’m the patient with the bunny slippers, princess crown, cozy bathrobe and etc.  I even take my own pillow! By focusing on providing for my own comfort, it helps distract me from the surgery. I know you’ll do great! Sassy  

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Hi. I go in tomorrow morning for a mastectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I’m scared, and I really don’t want to go. Any words of advice? Nancy

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Inspirational pet story……12/13/01…..Cinnam on

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Cathy wrote….. She was abused by four young men who call themselves human beings.  In spite of all of her suffering, Cinnamon still has the heart to hobble up to a strange man standing on the street corner, in a place that could only be known as "a war zone," and rub against his leg to let him know that she still loves "all" human beings.     Yes, there are all sorts of heroes in this story — Cinnamon herself, and the many folks who helped her.  It’s a story of the "spirit of goodness" and the "spirit of kindness" shown by these people.     It’s a wonderful, wonderful, feeling you’ll find that lives deep inside the hearts of all good, kind and decent people.

Tissue time <sniff Good one Cathy!! Thanks Jackie

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Beautifull story Cathy Tho I do like and love animals I don’t have a pet. But I had a dog named Charlie. I ‘found’ him years ago. people told me there was a little dog in the animal-shelter who was severly abused when he was little. Because of this he was very unpredictable. And nobody would have him. I went to see him and and thought it over for a few days. I knew if nobody wanted him they would put him to sleep. And I also knew I am no good in ‘training pets’ But I took him anyway. He allways remained ‘difficult’ and edgy,but I did like his firm character. He really was ‘the boss’ around here I never saw him put his tail down hehe… When he was 12 years he became very ill and we had to put him to sleep. he was not your ‘average cute pet’ but he was truelly a ‘Survivor’ Kiss Anna

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HI Jackie & Anna (I hope you get this my new computer doesn’t like my ISP have been put to sleep.  They are better then any I could have bought with papers. Love Cathy — P.H.O.B.I.A. Off-line NJ Panic/Anxiety support Group http://community.nj.com/cc/phobia If someone listens, or stretches out a  hand, or whispers a kind word of encouragement, or attempts to understand a lonely person, extraordinary things begin to happen. ~Loretta Girzatlis~ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Beautifull story Cathy Tho I do like and love animals I don’t have a pet. But I had a dog named Charlie. I ‘found’ him years ago. people told me there was a little dog in the animal-shelter who was severly abused when he was little. Because of this he was very unpredictable. And nobody would have him. I went to see him and and thought it over for a few days. I knew if nobody wanted him they would put him to sleep. And I also knew I am no good in ‘training pets’ But I took him anyway. He allways remained ‘difficult’ and edgy,but I did like his firm character. He really was ‘the boss’ around here I never saw him put his tail down hehe… When he was 12 years he became very ill and we had to put him to sleep. he was not your ‘average cute pet’ but he was truelly a ‘Survivor’ Kiss Anna

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CINNAMON      I left California about 13 years ago and moved to Brunswick, Georgia. Since that time, I think often about returning, especially to go fishing for striped bass in the beautiful California Delta.      Like many people, I can’t afford a very elaborate vacation.  However, we’ve managed to save a little money, and my dream of once again fishing in the California Delta waters was finally coming true.  Moreover, Judy and I had been invited to stay, at no charge, in the home of my best friend, Danny, who was in need of a liver transplant.      The first day of our vacation was spent with Dan and Lois.  We talked and laughed and made up for lost time.  Dan and Lois live right on the edge of an area known as the dreaded "Airport District".  It’s not a very good neighborhood and if you’re not known, your personal safety could be in jeopardy.  Nevertheless, I was up early and decided to take a stroll around the old neighborhood.      I slowly walked down the edge of the street until I got to the corner of Connie Way.  I looked at the large holes in the half paved, pot ridden roadway — filled with trash and mud just as they had been thirteen years earlier.  Further down the street I could see about a dozen broken down junk cars still lining the roadway, as well as tons of used, worthless, old tires, large piles of trash, crushed tin cans and broken glass bottles.  It was like looking at a war zone.  Everything looked dead and totally barren of life.      I jumped as I felt something rub against my leg.      When I looked down, I saw a small cinnamon colored cat rubbing back and forth against my leg.  I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw that the cat’s leg was severely injured.  I picked the animal up in my arms and I carried it back to Danny’s house and I gave it bowls of food and water. I watched as she ate the food, gulping every bite as though she had not eaten in days.      The small cat’s broken leg was swollen and it was actually walking on the stub, dragging its entire foot behind it as it traveled along.      I immediately called a veterinarian and explained the situation. After agreeing to pay a $25 examination fee, the cat was finally examined. We were told that the cat’s foot was broken and that its leg had almost been twisted completely off.  Amputation of the entire leg from the shoulder down was the only recourse.  We were also told that the injury must have occurred at least a week prior, as an infection had spread into the shoulder.  He told us that the charge for removing the entire leg would run us about $1000.      Unable to pay the high fee, Judy and I took the cat back to our room and tried to make it as comfortable as possible.  The next morning, I walked down to the corner store and discovered that four young boys had severely abused the poor cat.      For hours, Judy and I stayed on the telephone trying to get a vet to help us save the animal, but to no avail.  Danny finally came into our room and told us that it was a hopeless cause and we should just have the cat put to sleep.      But I just couldn’t do it.      "Dan, if I ever accomplish anything in my life, I will save at least one thing from the Airport District," I told him.      Danny looked at me with tears in his eyes and he said, "Roger, that is why we have been friends for so many years.  You just never give in when it comes to fixing something that is broken, or hurt."      Well, by the end of the day, a surgeon at the Modesto Spay and Neuter Clinic agreed to amputate Cinnamon’s leg at their cost, which totaled $377. Judy and I gave up our fishing trip and used the money towards Cinnamon’s medical expenses.  Sonny’s Real Pit Bar BQ threw in $50.  Our friend Sharen Jackson, though she has many bills because of breast cancer surgery, threw in $130, and my son, Roger, pitched in another $100.      The wonderful people at Delta Airlines refused to accept the normal $75 fee that it normally charges for pets to travel.  They insisted that Cinnamon be allowed to fly home with Judy and I for free.      Cinnamon now lives here with us at our home in Brunswick, Georgia.  As I sit here writing this story, Judy is in the bedroom crying her eyes out. Judy stood silently watching Cinnamon as she used the litter box for the first time in her life.  There stood Cinnamon, all alone, trying to cover her business with a now invisible leg that is no longer there.      Here was an innocent little animal who had never hurt anyone.  She was abused by four young men who call themselves human beings.  In spite of all of her suffering, Cinnamon still has the heart to hobble up to a strange man standing on the street corner, in a place that could only be known as "a war zone," and rub against his leg to let him know that she still loves "all" human beings.      Yes, there are all sorts of heroes in this story — Cinnamon herself, and the many folks who helped her.  It’s a story of the "spirit of goodness" and the "spirit of kindness" shown by these people.      It’s a wonderful, wonderful, feeling you’ll find that lives deep inside the hearts of all good, kind and decent people. You can see pictures of Cinnamon at: http://www.geocities.com/trampolineone/survive/srv212.htm — P.H.O.B.I.A. Off-line NJ Panic/Anxiety support Group http://community.nj.com/cc/phobia If someone listens, or stretches out a  hand, or whispers a kind word of encouragement, or attempts to understand a lonely person, extraordinary things begin to happen. ~Loretta Girzatlis~

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Christmas depression

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Somewhere in the telling, you can’t be with your husband? How come? But whatever the reason — Christmas can certainly be an overwhelming time. But if you focus on the point of the holiday, you might find reasons to feel uplifted. To shift your thinking from one side to the other. For example, that your grandmother died on this day could bring up all the pain of losing her, but don’t focus on losing her, focus on all that she meant to you. Think about her, from your perspective, what she meant to you. Think about her best qualities and remember her by incorporating those qualities into your own character. Think about her worst qualities (meaning no offense, but we all have them <g>), and purge them from your own character, or vow to guard against those qualities. In either case, you will do your grandmother great honor, and extend her existence well into the future. I don’t know your level of abilities or where you live, Angel, but is it possible to volunteer at your local hospital? One of my sisters is a volunteer baby-rocker at the newborn unit, for babies born into unfortunate circumstances — either bad homes or bad health. They just need to be hugged and rocked. That’s just one thing. There are a million volunteer opportunities that will appeal to your interests and surely fill your soul. I’ll be thinking of you (((Angel))), and wishing the best for you and yours. — Best regards, Meg www.livergood.net "Angel ___" <AngelsLulla…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:26115-3C146ABA-238@storefull-178.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all. I hope all of you are doing as well as can be expected, > considering the MonSter in our lives. I am having a particularly rough > time right now. > It is coming upon Christmas time, which used to be my favorite time of > year, but this year I just don’t have that Christmas spirit. > There are a few reasons for this. Number one is, surprisingly, not the > MonSter, though it plays a close second. > Number one is that my grandmother died on Christmas last year. Well, > actually, the morning after Christmas, Dec. 26 @ 2 a.m. Thinking about > that makes Christmas not what it once was for me. My mother has decided > to not celebrate Christmas this year, if ever again. No tree, no > nothing. > Another reason I don’t feel in the holiday mood is that I have no money, > no prospect of getting any, and no way to get anyone any presents. I am > a very giving person, and I hate not being able to get my family gifts. > I would also like to be with my husband for Christmas but I just don’t > see that happening. For the last few years, we have had nice, quiet > Christmases with just the 2 of us, opening our gifts,and listening to > Nat King Cole. I’m going to really miss that this year. I really miss > him. > And, of course, who could feel Christmassey with the MonSter lingering, > and the prospect of breast cancer, and more brain surgery, and who knows > what else… > Sorry to go on and on like this, but I had to get it out. I’m just so > damn depressed. And please don’t suggest a good anti-depressant, cause I > am on one. And I just upped the dose. I just can’t quit crying, and now > I know why so many people kill themselves this time of year.  No fear, > though. I would never do it. It would hurt my family too much. > Love you all bunches, > Angel <crying>

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Hi Angel, When I used to feel that way especially around xmas, I found it REALLY helped to go out and volunteer to help other who are even less fortunate than you – doesn’t have to be some great effort – many agencies would be grateful for any of your time. Something to think about. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Angel ___ wrote: > Hello all. I hope all of you are doing as well as can be expected, > considering the MonSter in our lives. I am having a particularly rough > time right now. > It is coming upon Christmas time, which used to be my favorite time of > year, but this year I just don’t have that Christmas spirit. > There are a few reasons for this. Number one is, surprisingly, not the > MonSter, though it plays a close second. > Number one is that my grandmother died on Christmas last year. Well, > actually, the morning after Christmas, Dec. 26 @ 2 a.m. Thinking about > that makes Christmas not what it once was for me. My mother has decided > to not celebrate Christmas this year, if ever again. No tree, no > nothing. > Another reason I don’t feel in the holiday mood is that I have no money, > no prospect of getting any, and no way to get anyone any presents. I am > a very giving person, and I hate not being able to get my family gifts. > I would also like to be with my husband for Christmas but I just don’t > see that happening. For the last few years, we have had nice, quiet > Christmases with just the 2 of us, opening our gifts,and listening to > Nat King Cole. I’m going to really miss that this year. I really miss > him. > And, of course, who could feel Christmassey with the MonSter lingering, > and the prospect of breast cancer, and more brain surgery, and who knows > what else… > Sorry to go on and on like this, but I had to get it out. I’m just so > damn depressed. And please don’t suggest a good anti-depressant, cause I > am on one. And I just upped the dose. I just can’t quit crying, and now > I know why so many people kill themselves this time of year.  No fear, > though. I would never do it. It would hurt my family too much. > Love you all bunches, > Angel <crying>

– Eliz. ^^^^^ Nameless here for evermore.

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Hey Angel, This time of year can be terribly depressing, especially if one has been going through a rough patch, as you have, so it’s perfectly understandable for you to feel the way you do. One small suggestion for you and others who might find money tight (and who doesn’t?): fresh baking is always welcome under *my* tree; I much prefer something homemade and tasty to something expensive and store bought. And it needn’t cost much. Hang in there, Alan (still packing)

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having read all the other responses, angel, there’s not much i can add. holiday depression is very common, and please don’t think it only strikes those that lack the resources to party. as for anti depressants, i think their role is for depression caused by "chemical imbalance", not depression caused by perfectly legitimate reasons such as those you describe in your life. didn’t juls offer the most charming and imaginative ideas for gifts on a shoestring … sometimes the hardest thing, though, is motivation. if you could bottle that and flog it you’d make a fortune. know you’re not alone in how you feel. hope you spark up a bit soon. — God bless America, God save the Queen, God defend New Zealand and ….. thank Christ for Australia! ~ Russell Crowe ~ "Angel ___" <AngelsLulla…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:26115-3C146ABA-238@storefull-178.iap.bryant.webtv.net… Hello all. I hope all of you are doing as well as can be expected, considering the MonSter in our lives. I am having a particularly rough time right now. It is coming upon Christmas time, which used to be my favorite time of year, but this year I just don’t have that Christmas spirit. There are a few reasons for this. Number one is, surprisingly, not the MonSter, though it plays a close second. Number one is that my grandmother died on Christmas last year. Well, actually, the morning after Christmas, Dec. 26 @ 2 a.m. Thinking about that makes Christmas not what it once was for me. My mother has decided to not celebrate Christmas this year, if ever again. No tree, no nothing. Another reason I don’t feel in the holiday mood is that I have no money, no prospect of getting any, and no way to get anyone any presents. I am a very giving person, and I hate not being able to get my family gifts. I would also like to be with my husband for Christmas but I just don’t see that happening. For the last few years, we have had nice, quiet Christmases with just the 2 of us, opening our gifts,and listening to Nat King Cole. I’m going to really miss that this year. I really miss him. And, of course, who could feel Christmassey with the MonSter lingering, and the prospect of breast cancer, and more brain surgery, and who knows what else… Sorry to go on and on like this, but I had to get it out. I’m just so damn depressed. And please don’t suggest a good anti-depressant, cause I am on one. And I just upped the dose. I just can’t quit crying, and now I know why so many people kill themselves this time of year.  No fear, though. I would never do it. It would hurt my family too much. Love you all bunches, Angel <crying>

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Dear Angel;      I am going to chose my words very carefully here or I could silp into the holiday depression, myself.      I know someone telling you the old saying "time will take care of all hurts" is not helpful in these types of losses, while piling up all at once in your life.  It doesn’t help for someone to say that they "know how you feel either."  But, I also have had to listen to these things many times.                But, I know how hard it must have felt to find any right words now that I am wanting to comfort you at this time.      Each year at the holiday times, it has gotten better.  Like your mother, I was hurting so, and didn’t want any tree, the first year.      Most of all, I want to ask you take care of yourself as best as possible.  It is true that these kinds of losses can effect your health.        I would not have healed it seems, if it weren’t for the love of our Lord Jesus Christ.  Since, He had already blessed me with a wonderful daughter.  She was the healing "Angel" he kept close to me.  I’m sure you are the healing "Angel" to be close to your mother.  Hoping you will feel healing yourself in helping your mother.  My daughter says she has felt more love with my needing her at this time.  I have spoke to my daughter (Sherry) about you.  She says to wish you the best in each day ahead with your health and happiness.                          Sincerely, Karen P.S. Happy New Year!                  

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 02:56:42 -0500 (EST), AngelsLulla…@webtv.net (Angel ___) wrote: }It is coming upon Christmas time, which used to be my favorite time of }year, but this year I just don’t have that Christmas spirit.

Aw, Angel that sucks. My favourite grandmother died one week before Christmas when I was 17. I know how you feel on that one. Holidays are hard for many people. I can’t say anything to help, but know we are listening. Hugs from Ontario. (((((((((((((((((((((((((Angel))))))))))))))))))))))) — Joan Elizabeth! Are you quilting???

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{{{{Angel}}}} There are some things antidepressants just aren’t meant to handle — like real grief and distress. I hope you can at least get together with your mom for Christmas, even if celebrating it like usual doesn’t seem right.

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Dear Angel Terrible thing this holiday can do to a person who is kind-hearted and thoughtful, but also lacking financial resources. One year, when I was totally strapped, I wrote a Christmas letter to my parents. On pretty paper and in my bestest <g> hand-writing, I included thanks for the many blessings in my life and how my mom and dad were great people, great parents, etc, etc. I rolled it up like a scroll and tied it w/ pretty ribbon and presented it on C’mas day. It still sits–framed–in my mother’s house. They loved it more than any material gift I could have given. I, too, have the anniversary of my father’s death on the horizon. Does tend to put a damper on things, I know. But….I do try to re-live fond and more happy memories w/ my dad . We honor his memory by donating money to the Hospice that helped us w/ his final days. They, in return, send us a paper ornament which we add to the tree each year so that he is always with us during Christmas. While your mom may not want a tree, if you have received any Christmas cards, you might try to arrange them in a festive display, add some quiet carols to the stereo, and see if you and your parents could sip cocoa ( or other yummy beverage ) together one evening in lieu of a big holiday bash. Your husband?  Can’t help you there ‘cept to say that I am sorry–but he did make the bed….suppose he’ll have to lie in it alone, too. You are ( fortunately) with family that loves and cares for you….and that will make it truly a good C’mas for all of you . Hugs…. Rhonda On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 02:56:42 -0500 (EST), AngelsLulla…@webtv.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Angel ___) wrote: >Hello all. I hope all of you are doing as well as can be expected, >considering the MonSter in our lives. I am having a particularly rough >time right now. >It is coming upon Christmas time, which used to be my favorite time of >year, but this year I just don’t have that Christmas spirit. >There are a few reasons for this. Number one is, surprisingly, not the >MonSter, though it plays a close second. >Number one is that my grandmother died on Christmas last year. Well, >actually, the morning after Christmas, Dec. 26 @ 2 a.m. Thinking about >that makes Christmas not what it once was for me. My mother has decided >to not celebrate Christmas this year, if ever again. No tree, no >nothing. >Another reason I don’t feel in the holiday mood is that I have no money, >no prospect of getting any, and no way to get anyone any presents. I am >a very giving person, and I hate not being able to get my family gifts. >I would also like to be with my husband for Christmas but I just don’t >see that happening. For the last few years, we have had nice, quiet >Christmases with just the 2 of us, opening our gifts,and listening to >Nat King Cole. I’m going to really miss that this year. I really miss >him. >And, of course, who could feel Christmassey with the MonSter lingering, >and the prospect of breast cancer, and more brain surgery, and who knows >what else… >Sorry to go on and on like this, but I had to get it out. I’m just so >damn depressed. And please don’t suggest a good anti-depressant, cause I >am on one. And I just upped the dose. I just can’t quit crying, and now >I know why so many people kill themselves this time of year.  No fear, >though. I would never do it. It would hurt my family too much. >Love you all bunches, >Angel <crying>

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Angel, Wish I could do more but wanted you to know that I send hugs your way. Good thoughts for you crossing the ocean. . . {{{Hugs}}} Brenda H. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -AngelsLulla…@webtv.net (Angel ___) wrote in message <news:26115-3C146ABA-238@storefull-178.iap.bryant.webtv.net>… > Hello all. I hope all of you are doing as well as can be expected, > considering the MonSter in our lives. I am having a particularly rough > time right now. > It is coming upon Christmas time, which used to be my favorite time of > year, but this year I just don’t have that Christmas spirit. > There are a few reasons for this. Number one is, surprisingly, not the > MonSter, though it plays a close second. > Number one is that my grandmother died on Christmas last year. Well, > actually, the morning after Christmas, Dec. 26 @ 2 a.m. Thinking about > that makes Christmas not what it once was for me. My mother has decided > to not celebrate Christmas this year, if ever again. No tree, no > nothing. > Another reason I don’t feel in the holiday mood is that I have no money, > no prospect of getting any, and no way to get anyone any presents. I am > a very giving person, and I hate not being able to get my family gifts. > I would also like to be with my husband for Christmas but I just don’t > see that happening. For the last few years, we have had nice, quiet > Christmases with just the 2 of us, opening our gifts,and listening to > Nat King Cole. I’m going to really miss that this year. I really miss > him. > And, of course, who could feel Christmassey with the MonSter lingering, > and the prospect of breast cancer, and more brain surgery, and who knows > what else… > Sorry to go on and on like this, but I had to get it out. I’m just so > damn depressed. And please don’t suggest a good anti-depressant, cause I > am on one. And I just upped the dose. I just can’t quit crying, and now > I know why so many people kill themselves this time of year.  No fear, > though. I would never do it. It would hurt my family too much. > Love you all bunches, > Angel <crying>

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Hello all. I hope all of you are doing as well as can be expected, considering the MonSter in our lives. I am having a particularly rough time right now. It is coming upon Christmas time, which used to be my favorite time of year, but this year I just don’t have that Christmas spirit. There are a few reasons for this. Number one is, surprisingly, not the MonSter, though it plays a close second. Number one is that my grandmother died on Christmas last year. Well, actually, the morning after Christmas, Dec. 26 @ 2 a.m. Thinking about that makes Christmas not what it once was for me. My mother has decided to not celebrate Christmas this year, if ever again. No tree, no nothing. Another reason I don’t feel in the holiday mood is that I have no money, no prospect of getting any, and no way to get anyone any presents. I am a very giving person, and I hate not being able to get my family gifts. I would also like to be with my husband for Christmas but I just don’t see that happening. For the last few years, we have had nice, quiet Christmases with just the 2 of us, opening our gifts,and listening to Nat King Cole. I’m going to really miss that this year. I really miss him. And, of course, who could feel Christmassey with the MonSter lingering, and the prospect of breast cancer, and more brain surgery, and who knows what else… Sorry to go on and on like this, but I had to get it out. I’m just so damn depressed. And please don’t suggest a good anti-depressant, cause I am on one. And I just upped the dose. I just can’t quit crying, and now I know why so many people kill themselves this time of year.  No fear, though. I would never do it. It would hurt my family too much. Love you all bunches, Angel <crying>

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(((Angle))) I know what you mean about christmas!  It is so much work now….I continue to try and have everything done, and am very blessed with two wonderful girls ages 9 and 13 (as of yesterday….wow!)  to train. As for gifts, can you recycle and make anything? We also cannot afford much for our girls, let alone anyone else.  So, for the name I picked for my family (the siblings and their spouses always pick names)  I am doing a little crafty things. For my angelic sister in law I took a terra cotta rectangular pot I have that has leaf shapes molded into the terra cotta, collected all of the spray paint around here I could find and refinished it.  It looks pretty cool! Antiquish, with a brown spray painted base, terra cotta color poking through, gold accents and added a tiny bit of white.  I have started cuttings from the plants I have indoors here and plan to plant them arranged into the pot and that is her gift. For my mom, I downloaded a free screen saver creator located at http://dl.winsite.com/bin/Info?1000000034343 I am making a ton of different screen savers out of scanned in and digital pictures…very easy software to use…that my husband will than burn to a cd. both projects combined have cost me zero dollars so far….the screen saver software is freeware(yeah!!!!!!)  I will have to purchase blank cd’s to burn to, and some cd labels to print on. There are a ton of simple ideas…..dry cookie mix layered in a canning jar that you can decorate….leave plain, or add fabric to the cover that will jazz it up.  I received this gift one year and it was very much appreciated. Attached to the jar were instructions for the wet ingredients to be added, and a merry christmas poem…..very nice, gifts from the heart. One year my brother wrote out on plain note book paper what each person meant to him.  This was while he was in college and living in south carolina…the entire family lived in wisconsin….tears everywhere that christmas!  Another gift from the heart. As for your grandmother and mom, my grandmother died on thanksgiving…the first few years were very hard for my mom.  I took this opportunity to make her a picture collage on poster board and although we all cried because we missed her so much, she was there…at the table in photos.  We spent a healing thanksgiving sharing with each other what we found so special about her.  That seemed to help. Angel….you are strong and have much to grieve for…do not feel guilty about that.  It is a healthy thing…too much piled on you at this time it sounds like…I am always thinking of you!  Hang in there….I hope these few suggestions can in some way help?  If you need anything, (besides money I have none either : ) ) please email me. If you’d like to talk, we could exchange phone numbers…i’ll call you. Hugs coming your way! : ) — Take Care : ) JulieD "..There is no such thing as a failure who keeps  trying,  coasting to the bottom is your only disgrace…."  Blues Traveler "Angel ___" <AngelsLulla…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:26115-3C146ABA-238@storefull-178.iap.bryant.webtv.net… | Hello all. I hope all of you are doing as well as can be expected, | considering the MonSter in our lives. I am having a particularly rough | time right now. | It is coming upon Christmas time, which used to be my favorite time of | year, but this year I just don’t have that Christmas spirit. | There are a few reasons for this. Number one is, surprisingly, not the | MonSter, though it plays a close second. | Number one is that my grandmother died on Christmas last year. Well, | actually, the morning after Christmas, Dec. 26 @ 2 a.m. Thinking about | that makes Christmas not what it once was for me. My mother has decided | to not celebrate Christmas this year, if ever again. No tree, no | nothing. | Another reason I don’t feel in the holiday mood is that I have no money, | no prospect of getting any, and no way to get anyone any presents. I am | a very giving person, and I hate not being able to get my family gifts. | I would also like to be with my husband for Christmas but I just don’t | see that happening. For the last few years, we have had nice, quiet | Christmases with just the 2 of us, opening our gifts,and listening to | Nat King Cole. I’m going to really miss that this year. I really miss | him. | And, of course, who could feel Christmassey with the MonSter lingering, | and the prospect of breast cancer, and more brain surgery, and who knows | what else… | Sorry to go on and on like this, but I had to get it out. I’m just so | damn depressed. And please don’t suggest a good anti-depressant, cause I | am on one. And I just upped the dose. I just can’t quit crying, and now | I know why so many people kill themselves this time of year.  No fear, | though. I would never do it. It would hurt my family too much. | Love you all bunches, | Angel <crying> | — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 – Release Date: 11/24/01

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Husband's Reports to Family About Wife's Breast Cancer

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Rosemary is doing fine now, but 2000 was a tough year full of disappointing test results, doctors, hospitals and big changes to our quiet home. In case you are trying to cope with a similar experience in 2001, we would like to share our story and offer a little hope.  This is a compilation of e-mail updates to family and friends with photos. A summary of our reports are here: http://www.gallagher.com/bc/ Best wishes, Mark Summary of diagnosis: stage 2 breast cancer, invasive lobular carcinoma, one tumor 1.8cm, four lymph nodes positive, hormone receptive, and favorable pathology.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rosemary is doing fine now, but 2000 was a tough year full of disappointing test results, doctors, hospitals and big changes to our quiet home. In case you are trying to cope with a similar experience in 2001, we would like to share our story and offer a little hope.  This is a compilation of e-mail updates to family and friends with photos. A summary of our reports are here: http://www.gallagher.com/bc/ Best wishes, Mark Summary of diagnosis: stage 2 breast cancer, invasive lobular carcinoma, one tumor 1.8cm, four lymph nodes positive, hormone receptive, and favorable pathology.

Hi Mark Glad things are better for Rosemary adn yourself. Hopefully you and/or Rosemary will be joining in more often? In case anyone is interested (those who have to pay isp by the minute) this should be noted from your site: Note: 17 photographs included below, this page may take several minutes to download Great story and pictures. Best of Luck to you Two Hugs Boomer

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Diagnostic Mammogram

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Michele, Great news!  Thanks for sharing. Take care and keep healthy! …lisa

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Well, I went for the diagnostic mammogram and it came out normal.<snip Thanks again for your information and support.  All my best. Michele

CONGRATS!!!!! (((Big Hug))) Too! Boomer — The Best Things In Life Are Free!

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I would be more than happy to help anyone go thru what I just did although I’m not sure how good I would be at it.  I don’t think I have seen anyone here who was in the testing process except me but if someone comes along I will put in my 2 cents worth.  Like I said I will check in to see how everyone is doing and to find info in case I or anyone I know might need it. One of my best friend’s mom has had breast cancer and so we are kind of in the same boat.  She doesn’t seem to want to talk about it though.  It is interesting how different people can be when handling these kinds of things. Thanks again for everything. Michele

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fantastic good news. If you go away and forget all about us we’ll understand (fake tear). Or you can stick around and help other people through the same stress you’ve just been through. I’m just very, very glad for you. Well, I went for the diagnostic mammogram and it came out normal.  The people at the breast center were great.  The gal who did the mammogram asked me if I was nervous (guess she could tell) and when I said yes and explained about my mom having bc she said she totally understood.  She explained everything as she did it and said I would be able to cope with whatever happened.  (I remain skeptical but it made me feel better)  She said she had bc 61/2 years before with like 11 nodes positive.  She was in her early fortys.  She is feeling (and looking) great now.  She gave me a physical breast exam and said she didn’t feel anything.  Then she did the mammogram in which she took 4 pictures.  Some of the angles were different than the screening mammogram and I guess they used this small square thing to compress the area of density more although it didn’t feel any different than the screening mammogram which didn’t hurt me at all.  She said she needed to target and shoot right into the area of density.  Then the wait.  Within 10 minutes the doctor called me in and showed me a paper that said my mammogram was Normal/Negative/Benign.  Evidently when they compressed the area of density more there was nothing there or whatever was there they could tell was okay.  I love not having to wait.  I am asking if I can get my screening mammogram done this way from now on.  (If it will be covered by my insurance)  I think all this waiting, 1 month total,  made my anxiety much more pronounced.  All the people in the center including the radiologist were female and very warm and compassionate. Needless to say I am very relieved and feel very blessed.  I also feel somewhat confused as to why I am so blessed.  I am to do monthly breast exams, have annual physician breast exams, and have an annual mammogram which I will absolutely do.  Thanks to all of you who sent me their best wishes and prayers for good news.  I send my best wishes and prayers back to each of you to have good news of your own.  No one deserves it more than eac h one of you and your care givers.  I will no doubt lurk from time to time to see how you are doing.  I have been lurking for 2 years since we got internet service.  You are part of the reason I finally got that mammogram. You and my 18 year old daughter who finally made me promise her.  I am almost 47.   I hope any lurkers out there who are like me (scared worry wart types you know who you are) will do the same.  I am usually quite assertive and do stuff other people tell me they wouldn’t dare do on their own.  I did and had the dr. do the breast exams but with mammograms I was just one big nerve. Thanks again for your information and support.  All my best. Michele

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Fantastic good news. If you go away and forget all about us we’ll understand (fake tear). Or you can stick around and help other people through the same stress you’ve just been through. I’m just very, very glad for you.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I went for the diagnostic mammogram and it came out normal.  The people at the breast center were great.  The gal who did the mammogram asked me if I was nervous (guess she could tell) and when I said yes and explained about my mom having bc she said she totally understood.  She explained everything as she did it and said I would be able to cope with whatever happened.  (I remain skeptical but it made me feel better)  She said she had bc 61/2 years before with like 11 nodes positive.  She was in her early fortys.  She is feeling (and looking) great now.  She gave me a physical breast exam and said she didn’t feel anything.  Then she did the mammogram in which she took 4 pictures.  Some of the angles were different than the screening mammogram and I guess they used this small square thing to compress the area of density more although it didn’t feel any different than the screening mammogram which didn’t hurt me at all.  She said she needed to target and shoot right into the area of density.  Then the wait.  Within 10 minutes the doctor called me in and showed me a paper that said my mammogram was Normal/Negative/Benign.  Evidently when they compressed the area of density more there was nothing there or whatever was there they could tell was okay.  I love not having to wait.  I am asking if I can get my screening mammogram done this way from now on.  (If it will be covered by my insurance)  I think all this waiting, 1 month total,  made my anxiety much more pronounced.  All the people in the center including the radiologist were female and very warm and compassionate. Needless to say I am very relieved and feel very blessed.  I also feel somewhat confused as to why I am so blessed.  I am to do monthly breast exams, have annual physician breast exams, and have an annual mammogram which I will absolutely do.  Thanks to all of you who sent me their best wishes and prayers for good news.  I send my best wishes and prayers back to each of you to have good news of your own.  No one deserves it more than eac h one of you and your care givers.  I will no doubt lurk from time to time to see how you are doing.  I have been lurking for 2 years since we got internet service.  You are part of the reason I finally got that mammogram. You and my 18 year old daughter who finally made me promise her.  I am almost 47.   I hope any lurkers out there who are like me (scared worry wart types you know who you are) will do the same.  I am usually quite assertive and do stuff other people tell me they wouldn’t dare do on their own.  I did and had the dr. do the breast exams but with mammograms I was just one big nerve. Thanks again for your information and support.  All my best. Michele

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Well, I went for the diagnostic mammogram and it came out normal.  The people at the breast center were great.  The gal who did the mammogram asked me if I was nervous (guess she could tell) and when I said yes and explained about my mom having bc she said she totally understood.  She explained everything as she did it and said I would be able to cope with whatever happened.  (I remain skeptical but it made me feel better)  She said she had bc 61/2 years before with like 11 nodes positive.  She was in her early fortys.  She is feeling (and looking) great now.  She gave me a physical breast exam and said she didn’t feel anything.  Then she did the mammogram in which she took 4 pictures.  Some of the angles were different than the screening mammogram and I guess they used this small square thing to compress the area of density more although it didn’t feel any different than the screening mammogram which didn’t hurt me at all.  She said she needed to target and shoot right into the area of density.  Then the wait.  Within 10 minutes the doctor called me in and showed me a paper that said my mammogram was Normal/Negative/Benign.  Evidently when they compressed the area of density more there was nothing there or whatever was there they could tell was okay.  I love not having to wait.  I am asking if I can get my screening mammogram done this way from now on.  (If it will be covered by my insurance)  I think all this waiting, 1 month total,  made my anxiety much more pronounced.  All the people in the center including the radiologist were female and very warm and compassionate. Needless to say I am very relieved and feel very blessed.  I also feel somewhat confused as to why I am so blessed.  I am to do monthly breast exams, have annual physician breast exams, and have an annual mammogram which I will absolutely do.  Thanks to all of you who sent me their best wishes and prayers for good news.  I send my best wishes and prayers back to each of you to have good news of your own.  No one deserves it more than eac h one of you and your care givers.  I will no doubt lurk from time to time to see how you are doing.  I have been lurking for 2 years since we got internet service.  You are part of the reason I finally got that mammogram. You and my 18 year old daughter who finally made me promise her.  I am almost 47.   I hope any lurkers out there who are like me (scared worry wart types you know who you are) will do the same.  I am usually quite assertive and do stuff other people tell me they wouldn’t dare do on their own.  I did and had the dr. do the breast exams but with mammograms I was just one big nerve. Thanks again for your information and support.  All my best. Michele

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Disney Pins P.O.

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Hi All, If you have noticed the post office carries several different pins to comemerate the stamps,  cartoons, gift bags, etc.  why can they not make a Breast Cancer Awarness pin etc.?  If they do does anyone have any information on where I could get one?  I have been told by the post office that they do not exist. Oh yea, went for my appt. today, all is well!  I go back in 6 weeks for a check up.  Still no more Tomixifin,  I feel great. Take care all, Flutterbye

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The BC stamp logo do exist. They’re not at most post offices but can be found at health fairs at which the USPS has a booth and other media events. There are also numerous other BC stamp logo items available including sweatshirts, T-shirts, Tote bag, key chain, stamp in a desk frame (autographed), a paper weight and a candle. A form is available at many doctors offices and at many health fairs to order them through the mail. I have a copy of the form and would be glad to e-mail it to anyone who would like to have it. I am in no way involved in the ordering process, have nothing to say about the prices or S&H costs, and cannot tell you where the money collected goes. But if you want a form email — Judy Bear Founder and Webmaster:  Cancer Survivors On Line http://www.cancersurvivors.org A web site of cancer information, resources, and support (Site disclaimer applies to this message) If you’d like to share a cancer story or experience please visit our guestbook. http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4698216

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Judy, this order form is for items that have the new BC stamp on them, not the old one, correct? Just double checking, since there’s no way to see the merchandise in advance. Thank you very much for posting the order form…I have wanted a pin for a long time. Have you seen anything else on this order form?–Alice

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Alice, This is the value-added breast cancer stamp. I have seen in person the T-shirts and I’ve seen pictures of the stamp in a desk frame (nice looking but small), and the tote bag. I have the white T-shirt and it’s nice and a generous size. — Judy Bear Founder and Webmaster:  Cancer Survivors On Line http://www.cancersurvivors.org A web site of cancer information, resources, and support (Site disclaimer applies to this message) If you’d like to share a cancer story or experience please visit our guestbook. http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4698216

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Judy, Thanks so much for your prompt reply, I was clearly going into panic mode. I think I’ve gotten rid of it and appreciate your thorough suggestions. I have a 3 yr. old computer that supposedly came with an anti-virus program and I got used to pretending it was taking care of things. By the way, I went to your web site and was inspired by your family and your sharing.  I’m visiting the newsgroup because my older sister was diagnosed with BC last yr and had a mastectomy w/ chemo and radiation – and I think we’re all terrified. She likes to consume herself with medical strategies and drug lists and lab reports (all of which are very important) but I need to talk and hear and share – that’s how I wound up at the BC support newsgroup. Thank you for the help and the hope. Christine

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Judy, I was the one who informed Christine that she’s got a virus. When I read her post asking what to do about it, I thought, "Uh oh. I don’t have that information." Then I went on to your reply, and there is all the information she needs. You really are an incredibly helpful person! I have seen you post many helpful things in the short time I’ve been on this list. I just wanted you to know that someone has noticed and appreciates you! Thanks!–Alice

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Man! The first time I visit this site and I download a virus! Tried your suggestion of Microsoft’s home page but found nothing.  Can you be more specific about how to get rid of it?  Trying to get anywhere with my internet provider could take a LONG time.  Thanks. Chris

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Hi Christine, Here’s some information about the Happy99.exe virus. I think that’s the one you were talking about wasn’t it? Hope this helps. Here are some web sites which contain general information about it and instructions on how to delete it. How to Get Rid of Happy http://gaspelink.hypermart.geninfonet/virus.htm Delete Happy 99 http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/carecaweb/deletehappy99.htm Symantec AntiVirus http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html McAfee AntiVirus http://vil.mcafee.com/villib/alpha.asp I, personally, use an anti-virus program daily and never open any e-mail, newsgroup, or list attachment without saving it to my desktop first and scanning it. I think it’s good insurance. I also recommend that everyone keep their anti-virus programs updated. Most provide about a year of free updates and after that they’re available for a nominal fee. It’s a good buy! — Judy Bear Founder and Webmaster:  Cancer Survivors On Line http://www.cancersurvivors.org A web site of cancer information, resources, and support (Site disclaimer applies to this message) If you’d like to share a cancer story or experience please visit our guestbook. http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4698216

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"Jagger", you have a virus on your computer. You uploaded it to the newsgroup automatically when you posted. It’s called Happy99.exe, and anyone who downloads and opens this file will also have an infected computer. If you go to the Microsoft home page or contact your internet provider they will help you eliminate this virus. NOTE TO EVERYONE ELSE: DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS PROGRAM.

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I don’t have any information re the stamps but i was curious about your statement about tamoxifen. My oncologist wants me to go on it but I’ve never liked the idea of taking drugs. I don’t really like the idea of the side effects. I’ve been told about a progesterone cream that is natural. Have you heard anything about that? I have posted previously to this newsgroup about this but so far no one has responded. I had 9 out of 15 lymph nodes that were cancerous and one that had metastased  however, I had other tests that did not show the cancer had gone to my liver, lungs or bone.  I had discovered a lump in March of 98 but an ultrasound showed that i had 2 cysts. My doctor said i could just leave it or get it aspirated. I had one before so i thought i’ll just leave it. In October I decided it wasn’t going away so i better get it aspirated. Well of course that didn’t happen and the next week i had a mastectomy. I’ve gone through 6 months of chemotherapy -CEF and I will be getting radiation in about a month for 3 1/2 weeks.I would appreciate any information on tamoxfin or/and progesterone cream. Thanks.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi All, If you have noticed the post office carries several different pins to comemerate the stamps,  cartoons, gift bags, etc.  why can they not make a Breast Cancer Awarness pin etc.?  If they do does anyone have any information on where I could get one?  I have been told by the post office that they do not exist. Oh yea, went for my appt. today, all is well!  I go back in 6 weeks for a check up.  Still no more Tomixifin,  I feel great. Take care all, Flutterbye

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Hi people, this got my curiosity up so I did some ‘net searching. The US Postal Service was first http://www.usps.gov. I found some general postal stuff – hats, totes, T-shirts, etc. No BC stuff. BTW, you can buy a genuine leather postal carrier bag, looks like a big purse. Ladies, make a fashion statement! I did find a PS news release that may explain some things. The PS can license stamp designs to outside companies for a fee. The licensing is handled by a company called Hamilton Projects in NYC. I haven’t been able to find out much about this company. I did find a place, http://www.pinsonline.com that makes a business out of stamp jewelry. That have both the semipostal ($0.40) and uh… postal stamps ($0.33) available as lapel pins for around $4 + S&H. Look at their newsletter in PDF and you’ll see extremely fuzzy pictures. They advertise their products as licensed by the USPS. Don’t know anything about this company, blah, blah, blah etc. Lance I’m under so much stress, I’M GOING SEMIPOSTAL!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, If you have noticed the post office carries several different pins to comemerate the stamps,  cartoons, gift bags, etc.  why can they not make a Breast Cancer Awarness pin etc.?  If they do does anyone have any information on where I could get one?  I have been told by the post office that they do not exist.

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I was visiting my husband in the hospital.  I was in the elevator and a woman was wearing a lovely pin made from the bc stamp.  She told me someone who works in the hospital was making and selling them. The woman had to get off at the next stop and I could not get any more information.  So the next day I  called most of the departments until I found the woman who made the pin.  I ordered several pins  from her. I was proud to wear my pin.  I wore it pinned on my coat and so many people stopped me and asked me to get them a pin, so I call the woman and placed a second order.  This was last year and the woman lives in Manhattan. I don’t know if she still makes them.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi All, If you have noticed the post office carries several different pins to comemerate the stamps,  cartoons, gift bags, etc.  why can they not make a Breast Cancer Awarness pin etc.?  If they do does anyone have any information on where I could get one?  I have been told by the post office that they do not exist. Oh yea, went for my appt. today, all is well!  I go back in 6 weeks for a check up.  Still no more Tomixifin,  I feel great. Take care all, Flutterbye

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Ann Jillian Grand Marshall of Boat Parade

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Ann Jillian Named Grand Marshal of the 1998 BellSouth Winterfest Boat Parade Presented by Nokia; Three-Time Emmy Nominee and Golden Globe Winner FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Nov. 23, 1998–Ann Jillian, an accomplished performer who has starred in motion pictures, television, nightclubs and the Broadway stage, is the grand marshal of the 1998 BellSouth Winterfest Boat Parade Presented by Nokia, announced today Lisa Scott, Executive Director of WINTERFEST and Charlie Folds, Director of Community & Public Relations, WSVN 7- The News Station(tm). "Were excited that Ann Jillian will be aboard the Grand Marshal’s lead yacht greeting the thousands of spectators along the shoreline and the millions of television viewers at this year’s parade when it sets sail on Saturday, December 12 at 6:30 p.m. from Port Everglades," remarked Scott. "Winterfest is honored and delighted with the opportunity of having Ann bring to life America’s most watched boat parade," she added. Ann Jillian is a three-time Emmy Nominee and Golden Globe award winning actress, singer and motivational speaker. She is also an accomplished vocalist with a new CD, "Ann Jillian, In The Middle of Love," released by AER Music Group. Ann is a volunteer performer at St. Vincent Meals On Wheels, a lifetime board member of the American Society and the St. Jude’s Children board, a volunteer for AIDS benefits and is involved in many other worthwhile charities. In 1988 Ann won the "Best Actress" Golden Globe Award for her role in the poignant NBC television film "The Ann Jillian Story" which also received two EMMY nominations for her and the film. This autobiographical film received great critical acclaim as well as a tremendous viewing audience (35 share, 23.8 rating), making it the highest-rated, number one, two hour film of the 1987-88 season. Most importantly, "The Ann Jillian Story" brought Ann’s positive message about the hopeful side of breast cancer to millions of viewers. Good Housekeeping Magazine voted Ann Jillian one of the most admired women of the world, (1990 list). "For the past sixteen years that I have been involved the Winterfest Celebration, I am honored to have been involved in the selection of such distinguished former grand marshals as Willard Scott, Regis Philbin, Joan Rivers, Ed McMahon, Mary Hart, George Hamilton, Lee Majors and Doc Severinsen, to name a few. This year’s Grand Marshal, Ann Jillian, brings to Winterfest a new level of class and sophistication," remarked Charlie Folds, Director of Community & Public Relations for WSVN Channel 7/FOX Miami/Ft. Lauderdale. "We set out to develop the downtown crown jewel of restaurants, shops and entertainment. It seemed like the perfect marriage to team up with Winterfest, the crown jewel of Holiday family events. Sponsorship gives us the opportunity to help host a long enjoyed tradition benefiting both South Florida residents and our many visitors from abroad, stated James McCulla, Senior Vice President, Las Olas Riverfront. Ann Jillian will appear for the first time at the 1998 Winterfest Grand Marshal Reception on Friday, December 11, 1998 from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at "The Escape" at Las Olas Riverfront. Winterfest is a Florida not-for-profit organization based in Fort Lauderdale, Florida that annually produces numerous events to enhance the community’s image and provide wholesome, family entertainment. Winterfest is a subsidiary of the Greater Fort Lauderdale Chamber of Commerce. Please visit our website at www.winterfestparade.com CONTACT:   WINTERFEST Amy Tate, (954) 767-0686 or                                                 The IAC Group Pete Garcia, (305) 856-7474 KEYWORD:  FLORIDA BW1240  NOV 23,1998 7:13  PACIFIC   10:13  EASTERN

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Ann Jillian Named Grand Marshal of the 1998 BellSouth Winterfest Boat

Parade I guess that means it won’t be a topless parade. Would have much preferred Gloria Estefan to be the marshall, then we could have had wake jumping demos during the parade.

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Boy, idiots like to show off don’t they?????

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